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  • Bad News NobodyD Bad News Nobody

    @GossiTheDog who cares, soon there'll be no need for human coders anymore, whatever remains of the profession will be janitorial in nature. /s

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    @dukeboitans @GossiTheDog What hurts most in your comment is that you had to put /s on the end. Because this is exactly how some talk and mean it as something good.

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    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

      “Novice workers who rely heavily on AI to complete unfamiliar tasks may compromise their own skill acquisition. We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average.”

      “We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery.”

      https://arxiv.org/pdf/2601.20245

      https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills

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      #25

      @GossiTheDog I read the Anthropic article, the most interesting part to me was how different people use the LLM to assist their coding. You can choose to offload the cognitive effort or use it as a tool to help understand, it's up to you.

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      • Neo EhproqueE Neo Ehproque

        @hittitezombie @GossiTheDog just as soon as customers can describe what they want in precise unambiguous terms. I'll wait.

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        #26

        @ehproque @hittitezombie @GossiTheDog 🎯. I hate business rules, and yet that is probably what's kept me around as a developer.

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        • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

          “Novice workers who rely heavily on AI to complete unfamiliar tasks may compromise their own skill acquisition. We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average.”

          “We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery.”

          https://arxiv.org/pdf/2601.20245

          https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills

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          #27

          @GossiTheDog A really really great reflection on that very paper by @jenniferplusplus 🗒️
          https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/115990878133999416

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          • Little Art HistoriesA Little Art Histories

            @GossiTheDog I wonder which impact this will have on society. Not that people become more stupid, etc. but the mental impact - can it lead to bore-out? Depression? Mental illness? Because our brains are craving activity.
            The other concern is the erosion of the average jobs. What's left is work for unskilled workers or highly educated specialists. Which is also a problem in the long run. But, I guess, that's what they want. Cheap, unskilled labour with brain rot.

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            @art_histories @GossiTheDog

            This essay puts it better than I ever could. It's not even about the jobs, it's about feeling like the work we do has value

            https://sightlessscribbles.com/the-colonization-of-confidence/

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            • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

              “Novice workers who rely heavily on AI to complete unfamiliar tasks may compromise their own skill acquisition. We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average.”

              “We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery.”

              https://arxiv.org/pdf/2601.20245

              https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills

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              retech
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              #29

              @GossiTheDog All that $$$ and not a penny's worth of common sense.

              JFC what I could do with just 1 month's worth of their budget.

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              • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                “Novice workers who rely heavily on AI to complete unfamiliar tasks may compromise their own skill acquisition. We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average.”

                “We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery.”

                https://arxiv.org/pdf/2601.20245

                https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills

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                @GossiTheDog I watched a thousand machine generated piano concerts, and I’m still not better at playing the piano. Strange.

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                • Magnus AhltorpA Magnus Ahltorp

                  @GossiTheDog I watched a thousand machine generated piano concerts, and I’m still not better at playing the piano. Strange.

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                  #31

                  @GossiTheDog And by ”watched”, I mean ”played them at 10x with the sound off while scrolling on my phone”.

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                  • generic holiday season bribS generic holiday season brib

                    @art_histories @GossiTheDog

                    This essay puts it better than I ever could. It's not even about the jobs, it's about feeling like the work we do has value

                    https://sightlessscribbles.com/the-colonization-of-confidence/

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                    @sitcom_nemesis @GossiTheDog Completely d'accors with you. I hate LLMs, I hate the void, I hate to read machine written texts or look at AI pictures. I ĺiked the phrase "zombification" of art for this because that's what it is: It's nothing but a monstrous zombie machine that eats brains. It's the same process craftsmen experienced during the industrialization and I hate everything about it.

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                    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                      “Novice workers who rely heavily on AI to complete unfamiliar tasks may compromise their own skill acquisition. We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average.”

                      “We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery.”

                      https://arxiv.org/pdf/2601.20245

                      https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills

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                      @GossiTheDog There an uneasy feeling about all this. Everywhere one looks, every high level corporate one talks to, it’s all AI. Like a god that is prayed to.

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                      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                        “Novice workers who rely heavily on AI to complete unfamiliar tasks may compromise their own skill acquisition. We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average.”

                        “We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery.”

                        https://arxiv.org/pdf/2601.20245

                        https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills

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                        Tiesha the Transgressor
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                        @GossiTheDog

                        > You use AI
                        > You lose skills
                        > Replaced
                        @
                        > You don't use AI
                        > You produce less than your colleagues who use AI
                        > Replaced

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                        • damianwalshD damianwalsh

                          @GossiTheDog Our study, conducted by Professor No Shit and Doctor Obvious, found that when people offloaded their thinking to AI, they put in less effort and were less engaged, creating a barrier to personal development in exchange for a marginal increase in productivity.

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                          @damianwalsh @GossiTheDog Still really nice to have the research to back up the obvious though.

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                          • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                            “Novice workers who rely heavily on AI to complete unfamiliar tasks may compromise their own skill acquisition. We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average.”

                            “We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery.”

                            https://arxiv.org/pdf/2601.20245

                            https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills

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                            @GossiTheDog This varies significantly since you can say the same for the internet and youtube and if used correctly it can benefit a novice due to the interaction and being able to ask questions and compare to info gathered in other places. In comparison copying commands from some site wont benefit a novice either.

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                            • Gabriel Adrian SamfiraG Gabriel Adrian Samfira

                              @GossiTheDog this is no different than doing excessive hand holding as a mentor. When you answer questions instead of helping the mentee to fundamentally understand the thing they're asking about, and figuring out the issue for themselves (with your help), you take away from the valuable mental process that develops critical thinking and problem solving.

                              And a LLM does precisely this. It answers all your questions. You get the result. You never figure out the problem for yourself.

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                              @gabriel @GossiTheDog heavily depends on your prompt ask a simple slop question and not asking for explanations and trying to gain understanding and yes then absolutly true it can be used to cheat or it can be used to improve.

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                              • Tiesha the TransgressorT Tiesha the Transgressor

                                @GossiTheDog

                                > You use AI
                                > You lose skills
                                > Replaced
                                @
                                > You don't use AI
                                > You produce less than your colleagues who use AI
                                > Replaced

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                                @tail_call @GossiTheDog but:

                                > without delivering significant efficiency gains on average

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                                • Chance 'UmT Chance 'Um

                                  @damianwalsh @GossiTheDog Still really nice to have the research to back up the obvious though.

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                                  #39

                                  @tsrams @GossiTheDog Oh, for sure, and the way I interpret it probably just confirms my own bias. But I worry how it probably does the same for other people and for different reasons.

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                                  • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                    “Novice workers who rely heavily on AI to complete unfamiliar tasks may compromise their own skill acquisition. We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average.”

                                    “We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery.”

                                    https://arxiv.org/pdf/2601.20245

                                    https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills

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                                    @GossiTheDog
                                    What a surprise 🤦

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                                    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                      “Novice workers who rely heavily on AI to complete unfamiliar tasks may compromise their own skill acquisition. We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average.”

                                      “We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery.”

                                      https://arxiv.org/pdf/2601.20245

                                      https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills

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                                      Passwordsarehard4
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                                      @GossiTheDog to summarize, not doing a thing that you never learned how to do won’t allow you to do it later.

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                                      • Ben HardillB Ben Hardill

                                        @GossiTheDog From the "No Shit Sherlock" school of research

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                                        Von Xylofon
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                                        @ben @GossiTheDog Maybe so, but intuitive assertions have been catastrophically wrong before, so it's good to have hard data even for those.

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                                        • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                          “Novice workers who rely heavily on AI to complete unfamiliar tasks may compromise their own skill acquisition. We find that AI use impairs conceptual understanding, code reading, and debugging abilities, without delivering significant efficiency gains on average.”

                                          “We found that using AI assistance led to a statistically significant decrease in mastery.”

                                          https://arxiv.org/pdf/2601.20245

                                          https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills

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                                          @GossiTheDog OK, I guess I'll throw Anthropic a bone here and say it's pretty brave of them to post research that's fairly damning to their own products. I understand that's what they're "supposed" to do, but many orgs have a kill switch in upper management to suppress this sort of thing.

                                          "Our results suggest that incorporating AI aggressively into the workplace, particularly with respect to software engineering, comes with trade-offs."

                                          Ya think?!?!

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