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Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

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  • Tony HoyleT Tony Hoyle

    @cstross And the announcement timed after he appeared in the epstein files.

    Now we're talking about this BS instead..

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    George B
    wrote last edited by
    #22

    @cstross @tony

    Don't know about you but I have not stopped talking about him begging to go to pedo Island (and it seems being rejected the majority of the time)

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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      Taran Rampersad
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      #23

      @cstross it's the 'put it in a box and sell it' paradigm, where neither the box nor what goes in it can exist.

      He, like the 🍊, depend on the masses who lack learning. Not education: learning.

      In the most Twainish of ways.

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      • ChrisA Chris

        @cstross Elon, bullshit? Sir! I request you consider retracting that statement!

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        Cadbury Moose
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        #24

        @ASprinkleofSage @cstross

        Ratshit, then.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

          No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

          But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

          Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

          So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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          #25

          @cstross
          I'm so excited that pedo musk is finally heading to Mars this year. He can use the epstein list as his exclusive passenger list.

          "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

            No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

            But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

            Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

            So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

            FredricT πŸ˜·πŸ’‰πŸŒ»πŸŒˆF This user is from outside of this forum
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            FredricT πŸ˜·πŸ’‰πŸŒ»πŸŒˆ
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            #26

            @cstross Investors don’t need to be gullible to buy SpaceX shares. They only need to believe that some gullible fools down the line will buy their shares at a higher price.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

              No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

              But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

              Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

              So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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              Harkonnen2
              wrote last edited by
              #27

              The problem here is that both Elon and investors (as whole financial sector) is currently trapped in the myth of Eternal Growth. They are so trapped in this world where everything must grow, even growth must grow, that they don't see when they cross the barrier of telling themselves fairytales and having ideas that are physically impossible to realize. I'm not sure if this is gullibilty or if they really believe that the growth will never stop or maybe even fear because if they stop doing this, the REAL wold says "I call" and their world will fall apart...

              @cstross

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              • UilebheistU Uilebheist

                @cstross I wouldn't put it past him to actually believe his own bullshit though.
                He'd be "Yes, it breaks a law, big deal, we have lots of lawyers", without actually knowing that no, lawyers can't argue against physics.

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                Cadbury Moose
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                #28

                @Uilebheist @cstross

                (Some) lawyers can (and will, if paid enough) argue against physics, but their chance of winning (other than the money you're paying them) is less than infinitesimal. (They're hoping they will be paid more than they get sanctioned for.)

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                • Cadbury MooseC Cadbury Moose

                  @ASprinkleofSage @cstross

                  Ratshit, then.

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                  Chris
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                  #29

                  @Cadbury_Moose @cstross I mean, once it's rotted down, bullshit is actually useful. Not so sure about ratshit but possibly so. Maybe radioactive waste is more appropriate? it does ruin a good idiom though.

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    @dubiousblur Remember he owns massive battery factories. However, China more or less has a monopoly on PV panel manufacturing.

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                    fedops πŸ’™πŸ’›
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                    #30

                    @cstross with outdated technology because they failed on the 4680 cells, and with now canceled supply contracts:

                    https://electrek.co/2025/12/29/tesla-4680-battery-supply-chain-collapses-partner-writes-down-dea/

                    Apparently they are using up surplus 4680s in model ys now:

                    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-quietly-starts-building-model-y-with-its-controversial-4680-cells-again-264844.html

                    @dubiousblur

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                      Attorney Pat Weber
                      wrote last edited by
                      #31

                      @cstross Wild ideas β‰  prospectus

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                      • George BG George B

                        @cstross @tony

                        Don't know about you but I have not stopped talking about him begging to go to pedo Island (and it seems being rejected the majority of the time)

                        Fazal MajidF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @gbargoud @cstross @tony it takes a special kind of creepy to weird even Epstein out.

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                        • Mark KoekM Mark Koek

                          @kthy @cstross and that, infuriating as it is, works

                          Kid ManiaC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Kid Mania
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                          @mkoek @kthy @cstross
                          Yep.

                          He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

                          "Robo-taxis" anyone?
                          He first brought them up in 2016.

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                            No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                            But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                            Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                            So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                            Fazal MajidF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Fazal Majid
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                            #34

                            @cstross won't Kessler Syndrome make space launch dead as a business long before that?

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                            • fedops πŸ’™πŸ’›F fedops πŸ’™πŸ’›

                              @cstross with outdated technology because they failed on the 4680 cells, and with now canceled supply contracts:

                              https://electrek.co/2025/12/29/tesla-4680-battery-supply-chain-collapses-partner-writes-down-dea/

                              Apparently they are using up surplus 4680s in model ys now:

                              https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-quietly-starts-building-model-y-with-its-controversial-4680-cells-again-264844.html

                              @dubiousblur

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                              #35

                              @fedops @cstross @dubiousblur That is interesting.

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                                Marika@homeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Marika@home
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                                #36

                                @cstross thanks for pointing it out that clearly. I went through several articles yesterday to find out why the hell someone would think putting a data center in space would be beneficial.

                                And the only argument every journalist was citing besides "Sam Altman said it in a podcast" was 24/7 solar power, independent of weather. Which is not true for most lower orbits (earth's shadow), and still doesn't solve cooling, too little power, limited up/down link and maintenance problems.

                                So that it's just bullshit to sound futuristic to the dumbest of the dumbest makes a lot of sense.

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                  No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                  But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                  Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                  So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                  Didthat
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                                  #37

                                  @cstross
                                  Elon is a nazi want a be his ties with trump and epstien is why these ppl are not to be supported

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                                  • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

                                    @mkoek @kthy @cstross
                                    Yep.

                                    He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

                                    "Robo-taxis" anyone?
                                    He first brought them up in 2016.

                                    Kristian ThyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Kristian Thy
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                                    #38

                                    @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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                                    • Kristian ThyK Kristian Thy

                                      @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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                                      Kid Mania
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                                      @kthy @mkoek @cstross
                                      πŸ˜‚
                                      Ex-act-ly.

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                        No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                        But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                        Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                        So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                        Lucien
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #40

                                        @cstross Starlink might be the only thing one of his companies got right. I've been using one for a while now and it's a game changer when living somewhere remote. I wish we had a suitable EU competitor and not have to contribute to this man's lunacy...

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                          No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                          But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                          Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                          So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                                          Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Toni Aittoniemi
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #41

                                          @cstross Data centers on orbit is the stupidest idea ever.

                                          Perhaps even more stupid than letting a remote LLM control your personal computer πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

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