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  3. While the American male skater is getting attention for performing the 1st legal backflip landing on one skate, let's acknowledge the 1st person to have done this: a Black French girl, Surya Bonaly.

While the American male skater is getting attention for performing the 1st legal backflip landing on one skate, let's acknowledge the 1st person to have done this: a Black French girl, Surya Bonaly.

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  • DaveKazF DaveKaz

    @CStamp is it me or is Malinin smug and aloof, feigning humility? Maybe it’s just his Lord of the Rings outfit.

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    @fistfulofdave @CStamp
    He's only 21, just relieved and happy my guess.

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    • CarolynC Carolyn

      @BackFromTheDud She was, and a class act.

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      @CStamp @BackFromTheDud We loved her (and still do).

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      • CarolynC Carolyn

        While the American male skater is getting attention for performing the 1st legal backflip landing on one skate, let's acknowledge the 1st person to have done this: a Black French girl, Surya Bonaly. She, however, lost points for doing it.

        "Regarding the criticism she received during her career, Bonaly said she was “born too early,” ...

        “I broke ice for other skaters,”...“Now everything is different. People welcome anyone as long as they are good & that is what life is about.”

        #BlackHistory

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        @CStamp
        Genuine question: why the origin of the backflip is attributed to Bonaly and not Kubicka?
        The article says that the first one was Kubicka, but then proceed to talk about Bonaly, so there should be a reason I'm missing.

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        • Doug Baker - Elbows Up!S Doug Baker - Elbows Up!

          @CStamp "Olympic skating...fixed? Naaahhhh"

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          @SonofaGeorge They changed the rule a year or so ago. They don't give points for the backflip, but they also don't penalize the skaters for it anymore. When she did it, she knew points would be deducted, but knew she wasn't going to win a medal, so chose to go out on her own terms.

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          • CarolynC Carolyn

            While the American male skater is getting attention for performing the 1st legal backflip landing on one skate, let's acknowledge the 1st person to have done this: a Black French girl, Surya Bonaly. She, however, lost points for doing it.

            "Regarding the criticism she received during her career, Bonaly said she was “born too early,” ...

            “I broke ice for other skaters,”...“Now everything is different. People welcome anyone as long as they are good & that is what life is about.”

            #BlackHistory

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            @CStamp yeah, she was fabulous

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            • nicolaottomanoN nicolaottomano

              @CStamp
              Genuine question: why the origin of the backflip is attributed to Bonaly and not Kubicka?
              The article says that the first one was Kubicka, but then proceed to talk about Bonaly, so there should be a reason I'm missing.

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              @nicolaottomano He did a double skate landing, she was the first one to land it on one skate.

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              • James CamerounR James Cameroun

                @CStamp @BackFromTheDud We loved her (and still do).

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                @ratel @BackFromTheDud She is a class act.

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                • CarolynC Carolyn

                  @SonofaGeorge They changed the rule a year or so ago. They don't give points for the backflip, but they also don't penalize the skaters for it anymore. When she did it, she knew points would be deducted, but knew she wasn't going to win a medal, so chose to go out on her own terms.

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                  @CStamp I hope I can do the same. Not a backflip on ice, but go out on my own terms.
                  Thx

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                  • CarolynC Carolyn

                    @nicolaottomano He did a double skate landing, she was the first one to land it on one skate.

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                    @CStamp
                    OK (sorry for my ignorance), so the way of landing changes the kind of movement (kinda "backflip 1" and "backflip 2").
                    So, now my new question: being two different movement, are both allowed now?

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                      @fistfulofdave @CStamp
                      He's only 21, just relieved and happy my guess.

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                      @RHW @fistfulofdave Yeah, I would cut him some slack.

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                      • nicolaottomanoN nicolaottomano

                        @CStamp
                        OK (sorry for my ignorance), so the way of landing changes the kind of movement (kinda "backflip 1" and "backflip 2").
                        So, now my new question: being two different movement, are both allowed now?

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                        @nicolaottomano If they allow a flip to land on one skate, it would seem the easier two-skate landing should also be allowed.

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                        • CarolynC Carolyn

                          While the American male skater is getting attention for performing the 1st legal backflip landing on one skate, let's acknowledge the 1st person to have done this: a Black French girl, Surya Bonaly. She, however, lost points for doing it.

                          "Regarding the criticism she received during her career, Bonaly said she was “born too early,” ...

                          “I broke ice for other skaters,”...“Now everything is different. People welcome anyone as long as they are good & that is what life is about.”

                          #BlackHistory

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                          @CStamp I remember this! I wonder what she’s doing now?

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                          • CarolynC Carolyn

                            While the American male skater is getting attention for performing the 1st legal backflip landing on one skate, let's acknowledge the 1st person to have done this: a Black French girl, Surya Bonaly. She, however, lost points for doing it.

                            "Regarding the criticism she received during her career, Bonaly said she was “born too early,” ...

                            “I broke ice for other skaters,”...“Now everything is different. People welcome anyone as long as they are good & that is what life is about.”

                            #BlackHistory

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                            @CStamp The first thing I thought of when I saw him do it. No mention of Bonaly? But I'm old enough that I watched Bonaly do it live on TV (you are probably old enough too if James Van Der Beek is your generational icon).

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                            • MariaM Maria

                              @CStamp The first thing I thought of when I saw him do it. No mention of Bonaly? But I'm old enough that I watched Bonaly do it live on TV (you are probably old enough too if James Van Der Beek is your generational icon).

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                              @MariaHill LOL, um, no to the generational icon.

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                              • CarolynC Carolyn

                                While the American male skater is getting attention for performing the 1st legal backflip landing on one skate, let's acknowledge the 1st person to have done this: a Black French girl, Surya Bonaly. She, however, lost points for doing it.

                                "Regarding the criticism she received during her career, Bonaly said she was “born too early,” ...

                                “I broke ice for other skaters,”...“Now everything is different. People welcome anyone as long as they are good & that is what life is about.”

                                #BlackHistory

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                                @CStamp She's very humble; changes would probably have been slower to come were it not for her.

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                                • Colm DonoghueC Colm Donoghue

                                  @CStamp saw a doc about her on Netflix a few years ago

                                  To paraphrase Ginger Rogers
                                  Like Simone Biles except backwards and on skates

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                                  @CStamp forgot to say the show: Losers
                                  Surya is on ep3

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                                  • CarolynC Carolyn

                                    While the American male skater is getting attention for performing the 1st legal backflip landing on one skate, let's acknowledge the 1st person to have done this: a Black French girl, Surya Bonaly. She, however, lost points for doing it.

                                    "Regarding the criticism she received during her career, Bonaly said she was “born too early,” ...

                                    “I broke ice for other skaters,”...“Now everything is different. People welcome anyone as long as they are good & that is what life is about.”

                                    #BlackHistory

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                                    @CStamp

                                    #SuryaBonaly's story at the 1998 #Nagano #WinterOlympics is a marvel

                                    She committed an error and was out of medal contention. So she went "fuck it, if the judges don't appreciate me for my athletic gifts, I am going to win on my own terms" and was the first Olympic woman to do a #backflip in #figureskating *on one blade*

                                    And sure enough, we talk about that today more than anything else from then

                                    "Fuck the haters, I'll win on my terms, I'm going to live my life"

                                    Be like Surya

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                                    • CarolynC Carolyn

                                      While the American male skater is getting attention for performing the 1st legal backflip landing on one skate, let's acknowledge the 1st person to have done this: a Black French girl, Surya Bonaly. She, however, lost points for doing it.

                                      "Regarding the criticism she received during her career, Bonaly said she was “born too early,” ...

                                      “I broke ice for other skaters,”...“Now everything is different. People welcome anyone as long as they are good & that is what life is about.”

                                      #BlackHistory

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                                      @CStamp
                                      I remember her performance. It was amazing and the result was quite a shock .

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                                      • Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩B Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

                                        @CStamp

                                        #SuryaBonaly's story at the 1998 #Nagano #WinterOlympics is a marvel

                                        She committed an error and was out of medal contention. So she went "fuck it, if the judges don't appreciate me for my athletic gifts, I am going to win on my own terms" and was the first Olympic woman to do a #backflip in #figureskating *on one blade*

                                        And sure enough, we talk about that today more than anything else from then

                                        "Fuck the haters, I'll win on my terms, I'm going to live my life"

                                        Be like Surya

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                                        @benroyce @CStamp I only knew part of the story, very interesting, and even more inspiring.

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                                        • Gabriel PettierT Gabriel Pettier

                                          @benroyce @CStamp I only knew part of the story, very interesting, and even more inspiring.

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                                          @tshirtman @CStamp

                                          there's more to it

                                          she had a lot of resentment towards the judges. she turned her back to the judges after finishing and bowed to the fans

                                          she complained of ageism (like with gymnastics it's appalling). she got unusually low scores. "After 10 years, I am used to it"

                                          she was injured and considered dropping out. after her error she spontaneously decided to launch into the backflip and land on one foot

                                          she said she did it because it was "easier" (?!)

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surya_Bonaly#1997%E2%80%931998_season:_Third_Olympics

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