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  3. I run a small business and I would like to accept credit / debit card payments on my Android phone running #GrapheneOS

I run a small business and I would like to accept credit / debit card payments on my Android phone running #GrapheneOS

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  • Terence EdenE Terence Eden

    I run a small business and I would like to accept credit / debit card payments on my Android phone running #GrapheneOS

    Does anyone know of an app or paired terminal which will work?

    SumUp asked me to turn off Developer Tools, but still said the device didn't meet the security requirements for accepting payments.
    They offer a Bluetooth paired card reader - but I don't want to spend £30 if it won't work with Graphene.
    Anyone have experience *receiving* tap-to-pay on their GrapheneOS device?

    Joe Steinbring :thisisfine:J This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Edent A buddy who was using Square and a Pixel 6a (that he had been using to test Android apps) ran into this a few months ago. This isn't the answer you are looking for, but he ended up keeping one phone for Square at craft fairs and another for testing his Flutter apps.

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      @Edent If it helps, SumUp sell standalone terminals (which are more expensive) but work very well. We use them unattended across the hackspace.

      If you wanted to try a £30 terminal, Screwfix sell them and have a pretty generous returns policy.

      Terence EdenE This user is from outside of this forum
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      @hugh yeah, that's what I'm thinking. TBF, they're doing one for £19+VAT with free returns, so I might try that. Ta!

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      • Joe Steinbring :thisisfine:J Joe Steinbring :thisisfine:

        @Edent A buddy who was using Square and a Pixel 6a (that he had been using to test Android apps) ran into this a few months ago. This isn't the answer you are looking for, but he ended up keeping one phone for Square at craft fairs and another for testing his Flutter apps.

        Terence EdenE This user is from outside of this forum
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        @joe I'm gonna end up with a drawer full of phones, aren't I 😆

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        • Terence EdenE Terence Eden

          @joe I'm gonna end up with a drawer full of phones, aren't I 😆

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          @Edent Better than a bandolier full of phones?

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          • Terence EdenE Terence Eden

            @sborrill I'm not being funny, but I'm struggling to understand why you replied to me then?

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            @Edent I was saying that flagging developer tools wasn't a GrapheneOS-specific issue. SumUp doesn't even work well on stock Android (or on a web-browser). I'll back off now if I'm deemed to be a reply guy. Good luck taking payments. I'll follow along as it's something I'm interested in for various volunteer things I'm involved in.

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              @thedarkener What are the names of the people behind GrapheneOS and what sort of liability have they agreed to?

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              • Terence EdenE Terence Eden

                @thedarkener What are the names of the people behind GrapheneOS and what sort of liability have they agreed to?

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                @Edent What?

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                • Jordan (The Darkener)T Jordan (The Darkener)

                  @Edent What?

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                  @thedarkener how do you know that Graphene is more secure?
                  If you're a bank and having to deal with huge amounts of fraud, how would you verify that Graphene meets your security requirements?

                  Like, I'm quite happy to use it. But I'm not going to lose millions if they get compromised.

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                  • Terence EdenE Terence Eden

                    @thedarkener how do you know that Graphene is more secure?
                    If you're a bank and having to deal with huge amounts of fraud, how would you verify that Graphene meets your security requirements?

                    Like, I'm quite happy to use it. But I'm not going to lose millions if they get compromised.

                    Jordan (The Darkener)T This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @Edent Dude, are you trolling or what?

                    Your profile shows that you're into F/OSS. You should already know the answers to these questions.

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                    • Jordan (The Darkener)T Jordan (The Darkener)

                      @Edent Dude, are you trolling or what?

                      Your profile shows that you're into F/OSS. You should already know the answers to these questions.

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                      @thedarkener
                      I *do* know the answers to these questions. I've written extensively about it.

                      See, for example, https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2023/05/the-limits-of-general-purpose-computation/

                      Just because the OS is "built with security in mind" doesn't mean that it needs the regulatory needs of a bank.

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                      • Terence EdenE Terence Eden

                        @thedarkener
                        I *do* know the answers to these questions. I've written extensively about it.

                        See, for example, https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2023/05/the-limits-of-general-purpose-computation/

                        Just because the OS is "built with security in mind" doesn't mean that it needs the regulatory needs of a bank.

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                        @Edent

                        1) Security
                        2) Regulatory needs of a bank

                        These two things are not synonymous.

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                        • Jordan (The Darkener)T Jordan (The Darkener)

                          @Edent

                          1) Security
                          2) Regulatory needs of a bank

                          These two things are not synonymous.

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                          @thedarkener
                          Yes! Exactly. That's the point I make in my blog post.
                          Glad we're on the same page.

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                          • Terence EdenE Terence Eden

                            @fiend_unpleasant Wow! You're *so* insightful! Can you tell me more, please?

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                            @Edent Sure, what part of it did you not understand?

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