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  • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

    @amyshark

    I fully understand every single detail of this, and I do not care. The point of these calls isn’t really to figure out for them how to navigate the logistics and the politics; that is literally their job. The point is to make every senator lie awake sleepless every single night wondering how they can possibly do more to stop ICE, even if they can’t. That’s the position we’re in here in Minneapolis, and I don’t want any elected official to feel one drop more comfort than we’re feeling right now.

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    @inthehands

    I’m in Salem, Oregon. We went to Merkley’s town hall last week. Dodge, weave, duck. And he’s one of the few not beholden to AIPAC. He wants to talk kitchen table issues and platitudes and what will happen after the midterms. They are using chemical weapons on his constituents. They are arresting his families for seeking help at ERs. He will not discuss it. He will not be a leader. And he’s clearly not troubled in his conscience by any of it. I’ll keep calling, but…

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    • Amy Meyers🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇦🇺🇸🐸A Amy Meyers🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇦🇺🇸🐸

      @inthehands

      I’m in Salem, Oregon. We went to Merkley’s town hall last week. Dodge, weave, duck. And he’s one of the few not beholden to AIPAC. He wants to talk kitchen table issues and platitudes and what will happen after the midterms. They are using chemical weapons on his constituents. They are arresting his families for seeking help at ERs. He will not discuss it. He will not be a leader. And he’s clearly not troubled in his conscience by any of it. I’ll keep calling, but…

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      #20

      @amyshark

      Keep the pressure up. One by one, people like him are buckling. And the ones who aren’t are feeling more and more uncomfortable about it.

      Amy Meyers🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇦🇺🇸🐸A 1 Reply Last reply
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      • samiamsamS samiamsam

        @amyshark @inthehands

        so?

        seriously, should people just shut up and roll over

        fuck that

        seriously, fuck that

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        #21

        @samiamsam @inthehands

        I said nothing of the kind. I’ve been crocheting frog hats for PDX protests. I’m a law prof helping my students brainstorm & process.

        My point is not to waste time on dead avenues & false hopes. Schumer & Jeffries aren’t answers. Congress isn’t the solution. We need a national leader - a modern John Lewis, MLK, whoever - & national strikes to do economic damage & start bringing attention to our voices.

        But, thanks for your kind response.

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        • samiamsamS samiamsam

          @inthehands

          i called my 2 Senators and 1 Representative and said the same thing.

          Not one more dime for DHS ICE Border Patrol or Homeland Security

          NOT ONE MORE DIME

          The whole thing needs to be dismantled

          FaraiweF This user is from outside of this forum
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          Faraiwe
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          @samiamsam @inthehands my "senators" and representative" are irrecoverable magats.

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          • FaraiweF Faraiwe

            @samiamsam @inthehands my "senators" and representative" are irrecoverable magats.

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            @faraiwe @samiamsam

            A surprisingly productive question for people of that ilk has been, “Why are you covering for a pedophile?” Good one to ask publicly if you have the chance.

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            • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

              @amyshark

              Keep the pressure up. One by one, people like him are buckling. And the ones who aren’t are feeling more and more uncomfortable about it.

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              #24

              @inthehands I don’t want platitudes. I want action. Klobuchar disgusts me. She can’t even bring herself to say that ICE should be abolished. I want a real leader to stand up somewhere, unite the resistance, and get stuff done. This is beyond normal times and normal niceties like voting against extra funding to DHS.

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              • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                @faraiwe @samiamsam

                A surprisingly productive question for people of that ilk has been, “Why are you covering for a pedophile?” Good one to ask publicly if you have the chance.

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                Faraiwe
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                @inthehands @samiamsam they'll ditch, send security to escort you out (ask me how I know) and then forget about it, because they have unwavering MAGAt votes and zero shame, decency, honor nor a conscience

                Only one thing will fix that sort of shitstain on humanity.

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                • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                  My message to Senators:

                  ❝The correct amount of funding for not just ICE but the •entire Department of Homeland Security• is zero. ZERO. You heard me: the entire agency. Under current leadership, it is off the rails. It is dangerous. It it a menace.

                  “More training” is a pathetic non-answer; that just means more money. These murderers are trained; they are just monsters. Don’t say “better oversight.” Don’t say “more reforms.” Pull the rug. Switch it off. • Shut • it • down • NOW •

                  If you have to shut down every airport in the country because the TSA budget is in there too, then you shut down every damned airport in the country. If you have to shut down the federal government again, you shut it down. Your inaction is sleepwalking the country into civil war. SHUT. IT. DOWN.❞

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                  Chuck Fry 🏳️‍🌈
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                  #26

                  @inthehands I quoted your letter in my messages to my Senators and Representative. This cannot stand. I can't think of a time when it was more critical for Congress to uphold their individual oaths to support and defend the Constitution.

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                  • samiamsamS samiamsam

                    @inthehands

                    i called my 2 Senators and 1 Representative and said the same thing.

                    Not one more dime for DHS ICE Border Patrol or Homeland Security

                    NOT ONE MORE DIME

                    The whole thing needs to be dismantled

                    samiamsamS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    samiamsam
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                    #27

                    @inthehands

                    i also mentioned to them that my state is on the 'let's see who we can fuck with next' list because we are a Blue state

                    you know, for context

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                    • Stephen Bannasch (316 ppm)S Stephen Bannasch (316 ppm)

                      @inthehands

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                      @stepheneb @inthehands I never liked, and never listened to, the NRA.

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                      • Amy Meyers🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇦🇺🇸🐸A Amy Meyers🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇦🇺🇸🐸

                        @inthehands I don’t want platitudes. I want action. Klobuchar disgusts me. She can’t even bring herself to say that ICE should be abolished. I want a real leader to stand up somewhere, unite the resistance, and get stuff done. This is beyond normal times and normal niceties like voting against extra funding to DHS.

                        Morgan ⚧️R This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @amyshark @inthehands the situation we're in requires many avenues of resistance, and none of them are completely without value. Discouraging people from calling their senators doesn't inherently encourage them to do other things that might work a little better. Everyone is at a different stage of growth out of the capitalist hell we were raised in, and I imagine finding out that their call did nothing will give people better ideas more than giving up before they even try it will

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                        • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                          Pressure on Senators •is working•. Previously head-in-sand centrist Senators are actually coming out to vote against ICE funding. Their positions are still weak and insufficient, and more need to cave to pressure — but they are visibly buckling.

                          Again, we should not and must not wait on elected officials to save us — they will not — but we can and should deploy pressure on them as a strategic tool in moments when that can be useful.

                          Now is such a moment. KEEP IT UP.

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                          @inthehands
                          Hasn’t hurt that ICE pissed off the NRA

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                          • Amy Meyers🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇦🇺🇸🐸A Amy Meyers🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇦🇺🇸🐸

                            @samiamsam @inthehands

                            I said nothing of the kind. I’ve been crocheting frog hats for PDX protests. I’m a law prof helping my students brainstorm & process.

                            My point is not to waste time on dead avenues & false hopes. Schumer & Jeffries aren’t answers. Congress isn’t the solution. We need a national leader - a modern John Lewis, MLK, whoever - & national strikes to do economic damage & start bringing attention to our voices.

                            But, thanks for your kind response.

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                            @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands

                            Republican billionaires funded a multi-front war on democracy.

                            Courts. Congress. Disinformation. Sabotaging education. Book bans. Defunding higher education. Decades of Fox News blasting away into the minds of soldiers on military bases.

                            An equally broad response is required to counteract it.

                            A counterinsurgency needs guerilla tactics beyond simply voting.

                            Get creative. A big one is collecting evidence for war crimes trials. DNA. Payroll records. ID'S.

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                              @Sunny

                              Umm … everybody who watched the videos knows Alex never touched his gun.

                              NRA wrote:
                              “This sentiment from the First Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California is dangerous and wrong.
                              Responsible public voices should be awaiting a full investigation, not making generalizations and demonizing law-abiding citizens.”

                              Which part is the gaslighting?

                              @inthehands

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                              • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                                Pressure on Senators •is working•. Previously head-in-sand centrist Senators are actually coming out to vote against ICE funding. Their positions are still weak and insufficient, and more need to cave to pressure — but they are visibly buckling.

                                Again, we should not and must not wait on elected officials to save us — they will not — but we can and should deploy pressure on them as a strategic tool in moments when that can be useful.

                                Now is such a moment. KEEP IT UP.

                                1/

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                                @inthehands

                                “For the master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house. They may allow us to temporarily beat him at his own game, but they will never enable us to bring about genuine change. Racism and homophobia are real conditions of all our lives in this place and time. I urge each one of us here to reach down into that deep place of knowledge inside herself and touch that terror and loathing of any difference that lives here. See whose face it wears. Then the personal as the political can begin to illuminate all our choices.” -- Audre Lorde

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                                • EndicottRoad59E EndicottRoad59

                                  @stepheneb @inthehands I never liked, and never listened to, the NRA.

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                                  @EndicottAuthor

                                  Yes. And …??

                                  @inthehands

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                                  • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

                                    @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands

                                    Republican billionaires funded a multi-front war on democracy.

                                    Courts. Congress. Disinformation. Sabotaging education. Book bans. Defunding higher education. Decades of Fox News blasting away into the minds of soldiers on military bases.

                                    An equally broad response is required to counteract it.

                                    A counterinsurgency needs guerilla tactics beyond simply voting.

                                    Get creative. A big one is collecting evidence for war crimes trials. DNA. Payroll records. ID'S.

                                    Amy Meyers🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇦🇺🇸🐸A This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @Npars01 @samiamsam @inthehands

                                    Education is huge. Everyone must understand basic civics & what rights they do/not have in different circumstances. Free speech, assembly, etc. aren’t unlimited- recognize when you need a permit or a time/place/manner/content restriction being imposed could be genuine. Know your 4th, 5th, & 6th Am rights & how to invoke them. Document. Everything. Citizen journalism is essential as are quick drops before spoliation.

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                                    • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                                      I don’t actually expect centrist Senators to do this. I mean… come on. But a bunch of these noodle-spined tools think politics means splitting the difference between opposing positions, so I’m just giving them an opposing position that actually packs a punch before they water it down. (“Don’t negotiate against yourself. Ask for what you want.”)

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                                      @inthehands Yeah, I've sent my reps another message, citing various abuses by the DHS over the years, and saying that at this point the entire department needs to be closed, the homeland security act repealed completely, and anything short of that should be considered an act of treason, because it's a fundamentally antidemocratic department.

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                                      • Amy Meyers🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇦🇺🇸🐸A Amy Meyers🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇦🇺🇸🐸

                                        @Npars01 @samiamsam @inthehands

                                        Education is huge. Everyone must understand basic civics & what rights they do/not have in different circumstances. Free speech, assembly, etc. aren’t unlimited- recognize when you need a permit or a time/place/manner/content restriction being imposed could be genuine. Know your 4th, 5th, & 6th Am rights & how to invoke them. Document. Everything. Citizen journalism is essential as are quick drops before spoliation.

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                                        @Npars01 @samiamsam @inthehands

                                        In addition to the legal risks of being a bystander, have a plan to protect your data and that of fellow protesters. Consider using a burner phone and understanding what other data tracking exposure precautions you can take in case you are in a situation like Red Jacket.

                                        https://theconversation.com/filming-ice-is-legal-but-exposes-you-to-digital-tracking-heres-how-to-minimize-the-risk-273566

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                                        • Stephen Bannasch (316 ppm)S Stephen Bannasch (316 ppm)

                                          @Sunny

                                          Umm … everybody who watched the videos knows Alex never touched his gun.

                                          NRA wrote:
                                          “This sentiment from the First Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California is dangerous and wrong.
                                          Responsible public voices should be awaiting a full investigation, not making generalizations and demonizing law-abiding citizens.”

                                          Which part is the gaslighting?

                                          @inthehands

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                                          @stepheneb

                                          I think @Sunny just misread the post

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