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Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

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  • LappenjammerL Lappenjammer

    @futurebird I recently stayed in a decent hotel. The people working at reception (open about 12 hours a day) had to go to a cafe across the street every. single. day.
    Seriously the working conditions have eroded badly these past years and politicians still frame everyone of being work shy.

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    BeeCycling
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    @LappenjammerDieZweite @futurebird WTF? That would be illegal in the UK. You've got to provide toilets for your workers by law.

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

      If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

      Anyway welcome to communism.

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      Eric Lawton
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      @futurebird

      I hope they're not gender specific.

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

        If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

        Anyway welcome to communism.

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        m'ughes
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        #32

        @futurebird

        Brb gonna' set up a photobooth on the sidewalk in which I present the Wim Wenders film about a Japanese man who cleans toilets and lock people in until they've watched the entire movie.

        This is my supervillain origin story

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

          If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

          Anyway welcome to communism.

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          Chris Real
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          #33

          @futurebird

          Starbucks wil be grateful, too, as they'll stop being port of last resort.

          It's really a win-win for everyone—except the minions managing Trump's 'retribution' . . .

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

            If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

            Anyway welcome to communism.

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            ColesStreetPothole
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            @futurebird The communist principle of [checks notes] not wanting people to pee in the street or crap their pants.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

              If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

              Anyway welcome to communism.

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              LoseFriendsandAlienatePeople
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              The homeless and drug users will ruin the new bathrooms. Without addressing that issue first, this is just a waste of time.

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              • Eric LawtonE Eric Lawton

                @futurebird

                I hope they're not gender specific.

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                un perro atorrante y marginal
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                @EricLawton @futurebird
                "That" only works in cultured, civilized societies and a couple of generations in the future.😉 and not in USA, for now

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

                  If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

                  Anyway welcome to communism.

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                  Carrie Shanafelt
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                  @futurebird One of the hardest things for my mom when she has tried to visit me in New York has been toilet access. If you are not used to just holding it for hours, which most of us are, the city is totally inaccessible. I showed her that most hotels will not stop you from using a lobby toilet if you look like you know what you are doing, and she was convinced the city has made me insane. And then you visit a place like Tokyo and have a luxury bidet toilet experience in a subway station...

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                  • Carrie ShanafeltC Carrie Shanafelt

                    @futurebird One of the hardest things for my mom when she has tried to visit me in New York has been toilet access. If you are not used to just holding it for hours, which most of us are, the city is totally inaccessible. I showed her that most hotels will not stop you from using a lobby toilet if you look like you know what you are doing, and she was convinced the city has made me insane. And then you visit a place like Tokyo and have a luxury bidet toilet experience in a subway station...

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                    Exhaust_Fumes
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                    @carrideen @futurebird right. the other tricks i know are pretty clustered around midtown: museum memberships, making to the mall at columbus circle, NYPL branches. Used to be Crate & Barrel, which had a set of maybe 4 stalls in 2 bathrooms. but then it moved downtown, and now there's one stall that's harder to access.

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                    • Exhaust_FumesV Exhaust_Fumes

                      @carrideen @futurebird right. the other tricks i know are pretty clustered around midtown: museum memberships, making to the mall at columbus circle, NYPL branches. Used to be Crate & Barrel, which had a set of maybe 4 stalls in 2 bathrooms. but then it moved downtown, and now there's one stall that's harder to access.

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                      Exhaust_Fumes
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                      @carrideen @futurebird in Queens, where we have all the big-box retail, it's a little easier. but then you gotta be at big box retail. sigh.

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        @jacobyaudio

                        Well lets see if this is a big enough program.

                        Doing things in NYC means go big or go home. For this to have an impact it will need to have a secure funding source and it should take about a year or two to spin up.

                        I will be watching.

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                        @futurebird @jacobyaudio

                        I was reading an interview with Mamdami where he was commenting that the funding for a lot of these programs had already been secured years ago, just never implemented. I don't know if this is one of them, but I know they've been talking about installing public toilets in NYC since I lived there in the 90s!

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                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                          Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

                          If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

                          Anyway welcome to communism.

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                          Nu Modular
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                          @futurebird Aside from Kahn Academies and some Montessori schools; the US educational system doesn't teach Root Cause Analysis, anywhere near the range needed to effectively reconstruct sustainable root infrastructure.

                          A nice, brief breath of fresh air though.

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                          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                            Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

                            If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

                            Anyway welcome to communism.

                            Nicholas GuarracinoN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Nicholas Guarracino
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                            @futurebird How is he doing this, logistically speaking? Toilets have to physically sit somewhere, be hooked up to plumbing, lighting, etc. Not the easiest task in a crowded place like NYC.

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

                              If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

                              Anyway welcome to communism.

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                              Ox1de
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                              @futurebird I hope other cities take notice, would probably improve tourism. Before I go to any events if there’s no bathroom, I go bye bye,

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                              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

                                If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

                                Anyway welcome to communism.

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                                Steve Hersey
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                                @futurebird
                                I for one welcome our new communist toilet-maintaining overlords.

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                                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                  Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

                                  If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

                                  Anyway welcome to communism.

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                                  cavewoman rika :nonbinaryFlag:
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                                  #45

                                  @futurebird Tbf I kind of skimmed through the comments, but haven't noticed a single person explicitly mention how beneficial this is to unhoused New Yorkers (granted there shouldn't be anybody unhoused to begin with). I guess it's kind of needless to be said though.

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                                  • Nicholas GuarracinoN Nicholas Guarracino

                                    @futurebird How is he doing this, logistically speaking? Toilets have to physically sit somewhere, be hooked up to plumbing, lighting, etc. Not the easiest task in a crowded place like NYC.

                                    myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    myrmepropagandist
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                                    @nguarracino

                                    This is one of the easier parts of doing this for the city. The city has the parks, sidewalks, streets and many buildings and other places that it can use rent free. Likewise there are many existing toilets that are just... closed. Taking up space and no one can use them.

                                    For the plumbing there is a RFP for ideas and some copying of what they are doing in other cities.

                                    My major concern is long term funding.

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                                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                      Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

                                      If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

                                      Anyway welcome to communism.

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                                      Dadbod AntiFa
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                                      @futurebird @donaldball Kinda the inverse of “broken windows.”

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                                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                        @nguarracino

                                        This is one of the easier parts of doing this for the city. The city has the parks, sidewalks, streets and many buildings and other places that it can use rent free. Likewise there are many existing toilets that are just... closed. Taking up space and no one can use them.

                                        For the plumbing there is a RFP for ideas and some copying of what they are doing in other cities.

                                        My major concern is long term funding.

                                        Nicholas GuarracinoN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Nicholas Guarracino
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                                        @futurebird I hope it succeeds! Seems like a no-brainer... if there is one thing everybody has in common, it's a need to use the toilet.

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                                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                          Zohran is expanding the number of public toilets in NYC and improving how the existing ones are cleaned and maintained.

                                          If this is a big enough initiative it will have a huge impact on quality of life for new yorkers. I don't know if it is big enough. Nonetheless *this* is the way to address the things that make people feel like the city is a dump. It's also just... civilized. IDK. How do you call it a city and you have no bathrooms?

                                          Anyway welcome to communism.

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                                          Mina
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                                          @futurebird

                                          If we only had this communism thing in Berlin!

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