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There is a Mastodon instance that publishes content from its own PeerTube instance.

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  • Stefano MarinelliS Stefano Marinelli

    There is a Mastodon instance that publishes content from its own PeerTube instance. These contents are narrated aloud, likely by an AI, in several languages, and are based on articles that appear online. Today this happened with an article I shared from my blog.

    The problem is that there is no attribution to the original author and or the original source site. On the contrary, it gives the impression that the content was produced directly by whoever runs that site or instance.

    This is completely detached from the idea of properly sharing information. Taking inspiration is a wonderful thing. Claiming someone else’s work as your own is not.

    I contacted the account in question this morning. I have not received any reply, even though other content has been published in the meantime. A short while ago I also contacted the instance administrator.

    I will wait until tomorrow morning. If I do not receive a satisfactory response, I will publicly disclose the instance and the related content and block the entire domain. There are additional details that I prefer not to reveal at this time which further worsen the situation.

    This is not how we act in the Fediverse.

    In the Fediverse we respect one another.
    Let us avoid bringing improper practices here. You are free to use my posts as you wish. You can even make money by applying my advice.
    Just do not take away my attribution.

    #Fediverse #FediBlock #FediAdmin #HeadsUP

    C.C This user is from outside of this forum
    C.C This user is from outside of this forum
    C.
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    #12

    @stefano

    Not only unethical and AI-ick, it's copyright infringement. Every author/site of an article they've done this with has a case to complain here.

    It should be able to get this account booted from its instance on this alone.

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    • Stefano MarinelliS Stefano Marinelli

      There is a Mastodon instance that publishes content from its own PeerTube instance. These contents are narrated aloud, likely by an AI, in several languages, and are based on articles that appear online. Today this happened with an article I shared from my blog.

      The problem is that there is no attribution to the original author and or the original source site. On the contrary, it gives the impression that the content was produced directly by whoever runs that site or instance.

      This is completely detached from the idea of properly sharing information. Taking inspiration is a wonderful thing. Claiming someone else’s work as your own is not.

      I contacted the account in question this morning. I have not received any reply, even though other content has been published in the meantime. A short while ago I also contacted the instance administrator.

      I will wait until tomorrow morning. If I do not receive a satisfactory response, I will publicly disclose the instance and the related content and block the entire domain. There are additional details that I prefer not to reveal at this time which further worsen the situation.

      This is not how we act in the Fediverse.

      In the Fediverse we respect one another.
      Let us avoid bringing improper practices here. You are free to use my posts as you wish. You can even make money by applying my advice.
      Just do not take away my attribution.

      #Fediverse #FediBlock #FediAdmin #HeadsUP

      Pete OrrallP This user is from outside of this forum
      Pete OrrallP This user is from outside of this forum
      Pete Orrall
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      #13

      @stefano Sorry this happened to you. This isn't content, it's plagiarism. Period.

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      • Stefano MarinelliS Stefano Marinelli

        There is a Mastodon instance that publishes content from its own PeerTube instance. These contents are narrated aloud, likely by an AI, in several languages, and are based on articles that appear online. Today this happened with an article I shared from my blog.

        The problem is that there is no attribution to the original author and or the original source site. On the contrary, it gives the impression that the content was produced directly by whoever runs that site or instance.

        This is completely detached from the idea of properly sharing information. Taking inspiration is a wonderful thing. Claiming someone else’s work as your own is not.

        I contacted the account in question this morning. I have not received any reply, even though other content has been published in the meantime. A short while ago I also contacted the instance administrator.

        I will wait until tomorrow morning. If I do not receive a satisfactory response, I will publicly disclose the instance and the related content and block the entire domain. There are additional details that I prefer not to reveal at this time which further worsen the situation.

        This is not how we act in the Fediverse.

        In the Fediverse we respect one another.
        Let us avoid bringing improper practices here. You are free to use my posts as you wish. You can even make money by applying my advice.
        Just do not take away my attribution.

        #Fediverse #FediBlock #FediAdmin #HeadsUP

        incentiveI This user is from outside of this forum
        incentiveI This user is from outside of this forum
        incentive
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        #14

        @stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe Name names so I can update my block lists <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://board.circlewithadot.net/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f525.png?v=28325c671da" title="🔥" />

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        • Pete OrrallP Pete Orrall

          @stefano Sorry this happened to you. This isn't content, it's plagiarism. Period.

          TionislaT This user is from outside of this forum
          TionislaT This user is from outside of this forum
          Tionisla
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          #15

          @peteorrall @stefano 👍 plague_AI_rism

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          • Stefano MarinelliS Stefano Marinelli

            There is a Mastodon instance that publishes content from its own PeerTube instance. These contents are narrated aloud, likely by an AI, in several languages, and are based on articles that appear online. Today this happened with an article I shared from my blog.

            The problem is that there is no attribution to the original author and or the original source site. On the contrary, it gives the impression that the content was produced directly by whoever runs that site or instance.

            This is completely detached from the idea of properly sharing information. Taking inspiration is a wonderful thing. Claiming someone else’s work as your own is not.

            I contacted the account in question this morning. I have not received any reply, even though other content has been published in the meantime. A short while ago I also contacted the instance administrator.

            I will wait until tomorrow morning. If I do not receive a satisfactory response, I will publicly disclose the instance and the related content and block the entire domain. There are additional details that I prefer not to reveal at this time which further worsen the situation.

            This is not how we act in the Fediverse.

            In the Fediverse we respect one another.
            Let us avoid bringing improper practices here. You are free to use my posts as you wish. You can even make money by applying my advice.
            Just do not take away my attribution.

            #Fediverse #FediBlock #FediAdmin #HeadsUP

            Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
            Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
            Toni Aittoniemi
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            #16

            @stefano Take this kind of behaviour DOWN. We need to sink this bot trash down below the gutter!

            We defend ourselves. Not anyone else.

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            • Stefano MarinelliS This user is from outside of this forum
              Stefano MarinelliS This user is from outside of this forum
              Stefano Marinelli
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              #17

              @incentive if they won’t fix it, I will do it tomorrow morning (that is: in 12 hours from now)

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              • Stefano MarinelliS Stefano Marinelli

                There is a Mastodon instance that publishes content from its own PeerTube instance. These contents are narrated aloud, likely by an AI, in several languages, and are based on articles that appear online. Today this happened with an article I shared from my blog.

                The problem is that there is no attribution to the original author and or the original source site. On the contrary, it gives the impression that the content was produced directly by whoever runs that site or instance.

                This is completely detached from the idea of properly sharing information. Taking inspiration is a wonderful thing. Claiming someone else’s work as your own is not.

                I contacted the account in question this morning. I have not received any reply, even though other content has been published in the meantime. A short while ago I also contacted the instance administrator.

                I will wait until tomorrow morning. If I do not receive a satisfactory response, I will publicly disclose the instance and the related content and block the entire domain. There are additional details that I prefer not to reveal at this time which further worsen the situation.

                This is not how we act in the Fediverse.

                In the Fediverse we respect one another.
                Let us avoid bringing improper practices here. You are free to use my posts as you wish. You can even make money by applying my advice.
                Just do not take away my attribution.

                #Fediverse #FediBlock #FediAdmin #HeadsUP

                Arthur van der HargA This user is from outside of this forum
                Arthur van der HargA This user is from outside of this forum
                Arthur van der Harg
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                #18

                @stefano That’s foul play. If it’s easily doable, maybe put up an, um, “special” blog, specifically for this domain? One that it would probably not like being read aloud? Because I assume that the nonconsensual harvesting is done automatically.

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                • Arthur van der HargA Arthur van der Harg

                  @stefano That’s foul play. If it’s easily doable, maybe put up an, um, “special” blog, specifically for this domain? One that it would probably not like being read aloud? Because I assume that the nonconsensual harvesting is done automatically.

                  Stefano MarinelliS This user is from outside of this forum
                  Stefano MarinelliS This user is from outside of this forum
                  Stefano Marinelli
                  wrote last edited by
                  #19

                  @ArtHarg interesting idea…

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                  • Stefano MarinelliS Stefano Marinelli

                    There is a Mastodon instance that publishes content from its own PeerTube instance. These contents are narrated aloud, likely by an AI, in several languages, and are based on articles that appear online. Today this happened with an article I shared from my blog.

                    The problem is that there is no attribution to the original author and or the original source site. On the contrary, it gives the impression that the content was produced directly by whoever runs that site or instance.

                    This is completely detached from the idea of properly sharing information. Taking inspiration is a wonderful thing. Claiming someone else’s work as your own is not.

                    I contacted the account in question this morning. I have not received any reply, even though other content has been published in the meantime. A short while ago I also contacted the instance administrator.

                    I will wait until tomorrow morning. If I do not receive a satisfactory response, I will publicly disclose the instance and the related content and block the entire domain. There are additional details that I prefer not to reveal at this time which further worsen the situation.

                    This is not how we act in the Fediverse.

                    In the Fediverse we respect one another.
                    Let us avoid bringing improper practices here. You are free to use my posts as you wish. You can even make money by applying my advice.
                    Just do not take away my attribution.

                    #Fediverse #FediBlock #FediAdmin #HeadsUP

                    Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
                    Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
                    Kevin Russell
                    wrote last edited by
                    #20

                    @stefano

                    Let's block the instance

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                    • Stefano MarinelliS Stefano Marinelli

                      @incentive if they won’t fix it, I will do it tomorrow morning (that is: in 12 hours from now)

                      Elena Rossini ⁂_ This user is from outside of this forum
                      Elena Rossini ⁂_ This user is from outside of this forum
                      Elena Rossini ⁂
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                      #21

                      @stefano eagerly awaiting an update on this.

                      While tempting to block it, I think I would like to keep tabs on them and REPORT each and every new infringing video they make, until their account is permanently suspended…

                      @incentive

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                      • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                        @stefano eagerly awaiting an update on this.

                        While tempting to block it, I think I would like to keep tabs on them and REPORT each and every new infringing video they make, until their account is permanently suspended…

                        @incentive

                        EnigmaRotorE This user is from outside of this forum
                        EnigmaRotorE This user is from outside of this forum
                        EnigmaRotor
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                        #22

                        @_elena @stefano @incentive Suspended by an instance admin that is no other than themselves, I have so much doubt. But let’s wait for their written views on the problem…

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                        • EnigmaRotorE EnigmaRotor

                          @_elena @stefano @incentive Suspended by an instance admin that is no other than themselves, I have so much doubt. But let’s wait for their written views on the problem…

                          Elena Rossini ⁂_ This user is from outside of this forum
                          Elena Rossini ⁂_ This user is from outside of this forum
                          Elena Rossini ⁂
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                          #23

                          @EnigmaRotor oooh interesting. You mean they’re the admin of their own Mastodon and PeerTube instances? Then yes a block for sure.

                          I would also be curious to see if they’re posting that content on YouTube. The reporting there could be helpful in dissuading them…

                          @stefano @incentive

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                          • Stefano MarinelliS This user is from outside of this forum
                            Stefano MarinelliS This user is from outside of this forum
                            Stefano Marinelli
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                            #24

                            @hello everything is in Europe - which, in this case, can be even worse...

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