"Updating", huh?

@marcoarment @jwz Enshittification!!!!

@jsbilsbrough @marcoarment @bloominbeads Time to find an exit. It starts there and the goes to everything. VC funding. The end of fun

@pax0707 @marcoarment their language was even more passive, the email I received simply had the subject "Your Bitwarden Premium renewal is updating", so I almost didn't notice the price increase... the second sentence was "The price is updating to $1.65/month, billed annually". Though it added that "As an existing Bitwarden customer, you will receive a one-time 25% loyalty discount for this year's renewal".

$20/yr seems a bit steep just for U2F key support. $10/yr felt worth it.

@danieldk @marcoarment That's the one!

@axby @pax0707 @marcoarment If you only use Bitwarden for that feature, yes, that seems like a steep price hike *. A big notepad is cheap, and it might serve you better if you have no interrest in the more advanced bells and features you get with a basic subscription.
Or you could use Keepass or Lastpass. They’d probably pay people to sign up these days.

*I ,apart from using it, have no affiliation with Bitwarden in any way.

@marcoarment I can understand that wording for services that are actually making structural changes. For instance a hosting provider charging by minutes instead of bandwidth.

But just raising the price? Nah.

@Izng @pax0707 @marcoarment I forgot about emergency and shared access, I do appreciate those somewhat. But I’d rather store my TOTP secrets separately (I actually use Keepass for that). Are there any other great premium features I’m missing?

Hmm and it looks like U2F key support is included in the free version now, I don’t think it was 2 years ago.

I don’t want to cancel because Bitwarden has been great and I want it to survive, but it seems like the free version would meet all my needs.

@marcoarment I “updated” my 1Password price to zero. Thanks Apple Passwords!

@axby @pax0707 @marcoarment My fav feature is the ability to on the generate “masked email addresses” using Fastmails api. Much like on iCloud, but on better mail servers.

@Izng @pax0707 @marcoarment ah, I guess I've never even looked into that because I pay for a domain name (slightly cheaper than Bitwarden premium after the price "update"), so I can get anything@{my domain} forwarded to my main email inbox.

It is fun to sign up for services using {service name}@{my domain name} as the email, though it can get awkward when dealing with a real person who wants to confirm your email address.

I have yet to catch any spam from these aliases, though.

@marcoarment I don't mind the price increase but the "AI name suggestions" thing combined with the admission that they're vibe-coding the app at this point might push me over the edge to just doing apple's Passwords everywhere. At least "Apple Intelligence" has an off switch.

@marcoarment well. Don’t leave us hanging!

@marcoarment I had the same thought

@marcoarment I’d be happy to pay it if it meant the Safari plug in unlocked properly more often than 20% of the time.

@marcoarment Holy crap. I haven’t received any email, but I’m subscribed through Apple (with a v7 migration discount they offered a couple years ago), so I checked my subscription status… +125% increase in my case/currency.

Thanks for the heads up, now I have a couple months to evaluate alternatives!

@Izng @axby @marcoarment was being a bit sarcastic there. 10, or even 20$, a year is nothing compared to the competition, especially since you get everything most users need in a free version anyways.

@marcoarment They were already too expensive. Now it’ll be worse.

I highly recommend eWallet Password Manager. It’s iOS and MacOS. You pay once and own it forever. And it’s not expensive.

https://www.iliumsoft.com/ewallet/

@pax0707 @marcoarment the cheapest 1password subscription is EUR 33 a year.

For a ridiculously small amount of storage space. I don’t understand why password managers are so expensive.

@marcoarment 🤬

@drobeson And you’re not upgrading to a Family plan? That’s the Family price.