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Quiet is an alternative to team chat apps like Slack, Discord, and Element that does not require trusting a central server or running one's own.

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  • Roni Rolle LaukkarinenR Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

    Quiet is an alternative to team chat apps like Slack, Discord, and Element that does not require trusting a central server or running one's own. In Quiet, all data syncs directly between a team's devices over Tor with no server required.
    https://tryquiet.org

    #OpenSource #P2P #Apps #Chat

    Seán FenianZ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #13

    @rolle@mementomori.social This looks interesting, but I have to wonder how well it scales. The weakness of a direct client-to-client network is that N×N grows rapidly as N increases.

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    • Roni Rolle LaukkarinenR Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

      Quiet is an alternative to team chat apps like Slack, Discord, and Element that does not require trusting a central server or running one's own. In Quiet, all data syncs directly between a team's devices over Tor with no server required.
      https://tryquiet.org

      #OpenSource #P2P #Apps #Chat

      Joshua McNeillJ This user is from outside of this forum
      Joshua McNeillJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #14

      @rolle Wait, what's wrong with Element? Wasn't it literally created for the same reason?

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      • Roni Rolle LaukkarinenR Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

        Quiet is an alternative to team chat apps like Slack, Discord, and Element that does not require trusting a central server or running one's own. In Quiet, all data syncs directly between a team's devices over Tor with no server required.
        https://tryquiet.org

        #OpenSource #P2P #Apps #Chat

        Joris (DWizzy)J This user is from outside of this forum
        Joris (DWizzy)J This user is from outside of this forum
        Joris (DWizzy)
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        The website definitely looks more slick than https://tox.chat/ but I have trouble seeing what the advantage over that existing decentralised system is. #tox

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        • Joshua McNeillJ Joshua McNeill

          @rolle Wait, what's wrong with Element? Wasn't it literally created for the same reason?

          Joris (DWizzy)J This user is from outside of this forum
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          #16

          @joshisanonymous
          Element is federated like Mastodon, not fully decentralised. If that's important depends on your threat model
          @rolle

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          • Joris (DWizzy)J Joris (DWizzy)

            @joshisanonymous
            Element is federated like Mastodon, not fully decentralised. If that's important depends on your threat model
            @rolle

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            #17

            @Joris @joshisanonymous I use Matrix. It seems Quiet takes a different approach since it's serverless and peer-to-peer. Matrix can be a hassle to set up. I have my own server, and it's definitely a love-hate relationship.

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            • ruisanR ruisan

              @rolle do you know if there is an api to publish messages in your communities?

              Roni Rolle LaukkarinenR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @ruisan I actually know very little about this app. I just starred it on GitHub and wanted to share it.

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              • Roni Rolle LaukkarinenR Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

                @hamishtpb Still, you can fork it, make a "libre" version, or host it wherever you want. You can nitpick as much as you like and still criticize society while living in it, it's your choice. I've got over 800 GitHub repositories spanning almost 20 years. Open source isn't Big Tech just because the repo happens to be on GitHub. It's still community-driven, transparent, and free to fork anywhere.

                I'm just so tired of people saying, "You're doing good things the wrong way". You need somehow to be absolutely perfect in everything you do.

                antti 💆‍♂️🎧🌊A This user is from outside of this forum
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                @rolle the "you are doing good things in a wrong way" people are the most tiresome aspect of the entire fediverse

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                • antti 💆‍♂️🎧🌊A antti 💆‍♂️🎧🌊

                  @rolle the "you are doing good things in a wrong way" people are the most tiresome aspect of the entire fediverse

                  Roni Rolle LaukkarinenR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @antti I agree.

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                  • antti 💆‍♂️🎧🌊A antti 💆‍♂️🎧🌊

                    @rolle the "you are doing good things in a wrong way" people are the most tiresome aspect of the entire fediverse

                    Tommi NieminenT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @antti @rolle ”Väärin sammutettu” vai ”leikkaus onnistui, potilas kuoli”?

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                    • Roni Rolle LaukkarinenR Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

                      @hamishtpb Still, you can fork it, make a "libre" version, or host it wherever you want. You can nitpick as much as you like and still criticize society while living in it, it's your choice. I've got over 800 GitHub repositories spanning almost 20 years. Open source isn't Big Tech just because the repo happens to be on GitHub. It's still community-driven, transparent, and free to fork anywhere.

                      I'm just so tired of people saying, "You're doing good things the wrong way". You need somehow to be absolutely perfect in everything you do.

                      Ben CurthoysB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @rolle @hamishtpb The more good that you are doing, the higher the status you have, the more mana they can leach from you by finding something - anything - to criticise.

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                      • Roni Rolle LaukkarinenR Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

                        Quiet is an alternative to team chat apps like Slack, Discord, and Element that does not require trusting a central server or running one's own. In Quiet, all data syncs directly between a team's devices over Tor with no server required.
                        https://tryquiet.org

                        #OpenSource #P2P #Apps #Chat

                        Mika SavolainenM This user is from outside of this forum
                        Mika SavolainenM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @rolle Interesting. This feels like "Team version of Briar". There are some similar chat apps like Cwtch and SimpleX, but this one seems fully focused on teams.

                        This seems like great alternative for Telegram, because I think that is currently used for this kind of communication.

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                        • antti 💆‍♂️🎧🌊A antti 💆‍♂️🎧🌊

                          @rolle the "you are doing good things in a wrong way" people are the most tiresome aspect of the entire fediverse

                          HowToPhil (Phillip R)H This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @antti @rolle Should we do wrong things in a good way instead?

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                          • HowToPhil (Phillip R)H HowToPhil (Phillip R)

                            @antti @rolle Should we do wrong things in a good way instead?

                            Rob van Kan🔻E This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @howtophil @antti @rolle You can publish someone's stolen private photo, but only with proper attribution and alt text.

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                            • Roni Rolle LaukkarinenR Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

                              @antti I agree.

                              Sini TuuliaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @rolle @antti Incremental betterment is better than none! It doesn't have to all get done all at once and be perfect the first time for it to count as being better than whatever unmitigated absolute fuckery was being done before!

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                              • Sini TuuliaS Sini Tuulia

                                @rolle @antti Incremental betterment is better than none! It doesn't have to all get done all at once and be perfect the first time for it to count as being better than whatever unmitigated absolute fuckery was being done before!

                                antti 💆‍♂️🎧🌊A This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @sinituulia @rolle absolutely

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                                • Roni Rolle LaukkarinenR Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

                                  Quiet is an alternative to team chat apps like Slack, Discord, and Element that does not require trusting a central server or running one's own. In Quiet, all data syncs directly between a team's devices over Tor with no server required.
                                  https://tryquiet.org

                                  #OpenSource #P2P #Apps #Chat

                                  masukomiM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #28

                                  @rolle related is Cabal

                                  it's open source, encrypted, & fully distributed using the DAT protocol. I don't *think* it does inline images though. At least it didn't the last time I used it. Other than that it was great.

                                  https://cabal.chat/

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                                  • Ben CurthoysB Ben Curthoys

                                    @rolle @hamishtpb The more good that you are doing, the higher the status you have, the more mana they can leach from you by finding something - anything - to criticise.

                                    Ben CurthoysB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #29

                                    RE: https://mastodon.online/@danirabbit/115985248349797403

                                    @rolle

                                    Thought you might like this:

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                                    • Ben CurthoysB Ben Curthoys

                                      RE: https://mastodon.online/@danirabbit/115985248349797403

                                      @rolle

                                      Thought you might like this:

                                      Roni Rolle LaukkarinenR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #30

                                      @bencurthoys That is exactly what I mean. 👍

                                      Thanks for sharing.

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