By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can.
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i used to live on the edge. now i just want a desktop environment that doesn't explode when i need it the most
@nixCraft this is why I only install betas on devices that I can tolerate bugs and possible issues. The number of devices that I’m willing to do that on seems to keep going down.
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft in their 50s they move back to Debian Testing because they have the experience to report bugs
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft Yup, me too. Mint for ages here...
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft Surely the literal toaster (that they're still installing some distro on once they hit 40, and not specifically Arch as I choose to read this 🤭) doesn't have enough RAM or a fast enough processor to support a full desktop distro
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft Happy 45 year old Ubuntu user here
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft I really don't get this joke. Arch isn't Gentoo. You install it, and it just works. You never need to do a system upgrade 'cause it's on a rolling release, and its packages are always modern with the features you want.
Meanwhile Debian is perpetually antiquated, forcing creative hacks to get recent versions, and requires a tricky system upgrade every year or so just to remain relevant.
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft I switched to a macbook as my main driver for these reasons. But now I really want Linux back on desktop. Don’t trust anything anymore, but at least with Linux on my laptop, I won’t suddenly wake up with some forced AI having taken over my whole OS without my consent. 3 years until 50 now. Hope I’ll have the bandwidth to put Linux on my macbook by then
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i used to live on the edge. now i just want a desktop environment that doesn't explode when i need it the most
@nixCraft any thoughts on Fedora?
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft Right. Especially just to watch netflix on the toaster.
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft Funny, I already reached that point when I was 15 (or so) and had been using Arch for 9 months.
Since then, I've only used distributions that I can also recommend to non tech-savvy people.
I like tools that hide the bloat from me, like metapackages, Flatpak, Podman or rpm-ostree.
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft I can never deviate from debian+gnome for my main home laptop. I cannot say enough good things about its stability and reliability. paired with a good browser it has turned out to be the best combo for me. I can print, attend zoom calls, browse and do all office work with libre office. Stared with a older macbook pro and now use older surface laptop. Even the dell docking station works allowing me to have dual monitors.
Switching to Linux has never been easier for home! -
By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft as an over 40, I have Arch (CachyOS) only on my personal laptop. On all other PCs from family, it's just Debian 13 - zero stress with upgrades, especially for those who never run them
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft 48 here. Two years without anything breaking. Afraid It'll come at any moment now. But I doubt it would take more than half an hour.
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft So very true
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft Honesty, you don't have to be 40 for that to be the case. I switched to Linux to avoid the headaches of Windows, why add headaches to Linux?
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
seemed like a challenge at the time. other fish to fry now.
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft I was there by age 30. I got a Mac for personal use and RHEL for work.
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft Tried Debian on a couple of PCs but important things didn't work and I couldn't get help so I switched to Lubuntu for my son's PC.
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By age 40, a Linux user stops trying to install Arch on a toaster just to prove they can. They finally settle on Debian Stable or Mint because they realize they no longer have the "mental bandwidth" to spend 6 hours configuring stuff or fix broken systems just to check their email or watch Netflix.
@nixCraft lol I’m pushing 50, can attest.
