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  3. This isn’t just “owning the libs” — this is the highest office in the nation using technology to lie to the entire world.

This isn’t just “owning the libs” — this is the highest office in the nation using technology to lie to the entire world.

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  • Electronic Frontier FoundationE This user is from outside of this forum
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    This isn’t just “owning the libs” — this is the highest office in the nation using technology to lie to the entire world. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/01/beware-government-using-image-manipulation-propaganda

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    • Electronic Frontier FoundationE Electronic Frontier Foundation

      This isn’t just “owning the libs” — this is the highest office in the nation using technology to lie to the entire world. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/01/beware-government-using-image-manipulation-propaganda

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      @eff Please EFF, no more AI-generated content cowriting like this exact line you are quoting from the article 😢

      Just this line has: 1) smart quotes, where standard quotes are used elsewhere in the article, 2) em dash, 3) "Not this, but that" negative parallelism (see linked Wikipedia article).

      Please tell your writers we DON'T want to read AI-generated stuff.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing#Negative_parallelisms

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        @eff Please EFF, no more AI-generated content cowriting like this exact line you are quoting from the article 😢

        Just this line has: 1) smart quotes, where standard quotes are used elsewhere in the article, 2) em dash, 3) "Not this, but that" negative parallelism (see linked Wikipedia article).

        Please tell your writers we DON'T want to read AI-generated stuff.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing#Negative_parallelisms

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        @toast @eff i really hate that people associate good typography (smart quotes, em dashes etc.) with AI now. that on its own makes me dislike LLMs strongly.

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        • 🍉 max frühschütz  – нет войнеM 🍉 max frühschütz – нет войне

          @toast @eff i really hate that people associate good typography (smart quotes, em dashes etc.) with AI now. that on its own makes me dislike LLMs strongly.

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          @mfru @eff I don't hate AI itself (I use it for coding help) but feel disrespected when I'm handed AI-generated text to read. I wouldn't have judged this line if it were not for the negative parallelism. These other typographical signs which weren't consistent throughout the whole article confirmed my suspicion.

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            @eff Please EFF, no more AI-generated content cowriting like this exact line you are quoting from the article 😢

            Just this line has: 1) smart quotes, where standard quotes are used elsewhere in the article, 2) em dash, 3) "Not this, but that" negative parallelism (see linked Wikipedia article).

            Please tell your writers we DON'T want to read AI-generated stuff.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing#Negative_parallelisms

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            @toast@mstdn.party @eff@mastodon.social a lot of LLMs base their writing from articles and literature that used those exact writing styles (using em dashes, rule of 3, quotes, etc)

            not saying that the line you quoted
            doesn't sound like something an a.i would write,,but we also shouldn't immediately excuse it as a.i generated just because it shows a few signs in one quote. a lot of good writers write in similar ways and LLMs are essentially just copying their homework

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            • Electronic Frontier FoundationE Electronic Frontier Foundation

              This isn’t just “owning the libs” — this is the highest office in the nation using technology to lie to the entire world. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/01/beware-government-using-image-manipulation-propaganda

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              @eff GIMP: Government using Image Manipulation for Propaganda. 😛
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              • CalypsoDerg ΘΔ& :verified_dragon:T CalypsoDerg ΘΔ& :verified_dragon:

                @toast@mstdn.party @eff@mastodon.social a lot of LLMs base their writing from articles and literature that used those exact writing styles (using em dashes, rule of 3, quotes, etc)

                not saying that the line you quoted
                doesn't sound like something an a.i would write,,but we also shouldn't immediately excuse it as a.i generated just because it shows a few signs in one quote. a lot of good writers write in similar ways and LLMs are essentially just copying their homework

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                @TeensyTinyKobold @eff Yeah, I did jump on this one quote perhaps a bit too fast. My anger mostly comes from the negative parallelism, which is so overused by LLMs, being the *one thing* EFF picked out from the article. The mix of quote styles, shows something was copied, AI gen or not. When coding I've noticed AI overuses dashes in nouns that don't need them, and this article also has that ("start-up", "doubling-down", "Japanese-Americans"). Only the author knows the truth!

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                • Electronic Frontier FoundationE Electronic Frontier Foundation

                  This isn’t just “owning the libs” — this is the highest office in the nation using technology to lie to the entire world. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/01/beware-government-using-image-manipulation-propaganda

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                  @eff
                  Sooo… what's new?

                  Besides burning a small forest per each lie.

                  @darth_hideout

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