If Rachel Reeves cannot see that university student loans are becoming a totemic issue among graduates, then she may be heading for her own Nick-Clegg-moment when one decision prompts a haemorrhaging of the graduate vote (from Labour).
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@albertcardona @david_chisnall @jwi
And the key way to diffuse that would be massive investment in the Further Education Colleges sector, which has been starved of funded for years... suffering the prejudices detailed above in this thread
@ChrisMayLA6 @albertcardona @jwi
I suspect you could also do something with unfair hiring legislation to make discrimination on the grounds of holding a degree illegal. Unless you can show that a specific degree confers skills that cannot be acquired without it then you may not use it in hiring decisions. Companies never 100% comply with these things, but they do provide nudges. HR in big organisations will avoid automated filtering on them and will strip this information before passing it to a hiring manager.
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@albertcardona @ChrisMayLA6 @jwi
This was starting prior to Brexit. A lot of Polish plumbers were leaving the country because they could be better paid elsewhere, leading to a skills shortage. Brexit made it worse.
@david_chisnall @ChrisMayLA6 @jwi
Not surprised to learn that. Income inequality is rampant in the UK. One of the most unequal countries of Europe. That said, my plumber earns a lot more than me.
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@ChrisMayLA6 @albertcardona @jwi
I suspect you could also do something with unfair hiring legislation to make discrimination on the grounds of holding a degree illegal. Unless you can show that a specific degree confers skills that cannot be acquired without it then you may not use it in hiring decisions. Companies never 100% comply with these things, but they do provide nudges. HR in big organisations will avoid automated filtering on them and will strip this information before passing it to a hiring manager.
@david_chisnall @albertcardona @jwi
Yes, degree as a sort mechanism is corrosive
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@ChrisMayLA6 @david_chisnall @jwi
And more than that, a change in perceptions. For when I ask undergraduates here at Cambridge University why are they here, to learn or to get a credential, almost all say the latter. None of them should be here, they should be in a professional school where the credentials will match the jobs they seek.
@albertcardona @ChrisMayLA6 @jwi
When I was DoS at a Cambridge College, I always told my new students this: You are here to do two things, acquire an education and pass some exams. Do not make the mistake of confusing these two goals’. It would make me much happier if these two goals were more closely aligned.
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@ChrisMayLA6 @david_chisnall @jwi
And more than that, a change in perceptions. For when I ask undergraduates here at Cambridge University why are they here, to learn or to get a credential, almost all say the latter. None of them should be here, they should be in a professional school where the credentials will match the jobs they seek.
@albertcardona @david_chisnall @jwi
but that instrumentalism has been, of course, the focus of Govt. policy pronouncements for decades
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@albertcardona @david_chisnall @jwi
but that instrumentalism has been, of course, the focus of Govt. policy pronouncements for decades
@ChrisMayLA6 @david_chisnall @jwi
So how do we create the necessary circumstances of available information and public opinion to shift government policy towards reinstating professional schools? How can that be made acceptable and desirable to those in charge of now called universities that used to be polytechniques? And to the government to supply the funding?
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@ChrisMayLA6 @david_chisnall @jwi
So how do we create the necessary circumstances of available information and public opinion to shift government policy towards reinstating professional schools? How can that be made acceptable and desirable to those in charge of now called universities that used to be polytechniques? And to the government to supply the funding?
@albertcardona @david_chisnall @jwi
Well the first thing would be to de-professionalise politics - while out political class are predominantly university educated they will see that as the the key educative norm - that said, nowadays they seem also happy to destroy much of the sector on the alter of what used to be called the new pubic management & might now best de called market-normalisation
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@albertcardona @david_chisnall @jwi
Well the first thing would be to de-professionalise politics - while out political class are predominantly university educated they will see that as the the key educative norm - that said, nowadays they seem also happy to destroy much of the sector on the alter of what used to be called the new pubic management & might now best de called market-normalisation
@ChrisMayLA6 @david_chisnall @jwi
If that's the desirable action, what will create the conditions for it? Because anyone in power will only move if they see it as a win for themselves.
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@ChrisMayLA6 @david_chisnall @jwi
If that's the desirable action, what will create the conditions for it? Because anyone in power will only move if they see it as a win for themselves.
@albertcardona @david_chisnall @jwi
good Q: to which (sadly) I have no way nor immediate answer
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@ChrisMayLA6 And the reason UKLabour are out of time is #FPTP.
In 2007–11, #FiannaFail drove Ireland's economy over a cliff edge. #FF lost 58% of its vote share at Ireland's 2011 general election, but #STV ensured that #FF was not wiped out. It partially rebuilt, and by 2024 FF was again the largest party.
But #FPTP is far more brutal to losers. Labour's likely fall to under 20% of the vote will leave it as a tiny rump, too weak to rebuild.
@2legged @ChrisMayLA6 They've still got time to fix the voting system - which the tories would probably back, the libdems and other minor parties would back.
Not quite how I expected the UK broken voting system to get fixed but they may have to do it to survive
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@2legged @ChrisMayLA6 They've still got time to fix the voting system - which the tories would probably back, the libdems and other minor parties would back.
Not quite how I expected the UK broken voting system to get fixed but they may have to do it to survive
Yes, @etchedpixels, this is a unique opportunity. Technically not hard, cos it doesn't need fully new boundaries. Just clustering of 5-7 existing constituencies to form new multi-seat #STV constituencies.
I think that the Conservatives would oppose, but LibDems + SNP + Plaid + #GPEW + SDLP would support.
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If Rachel Reeves cannot see that university student loans are becoming a totemic issue among graduates, then she may be heading for her own Nick-Clegg-moment when one decision prompts a haemorrhaging of the graduate vote (from Labour).
The problem is that Labour still thinks they can bank on there being no vialable alternative on their left flank; which with Zack Polanski leading the GPEW, is no longer true; another Labour miscalculation?
#politics #universities #Greens
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce3k4xdqyp1o@ChrisMayLA6 I have yet to see any kind of clear, concise people centered policy statement from Labour. Just disjointed pokes at a mass of problems that will achieve nothing. Admittedly not much filters down to a small town on Canada's west coast, but if a leader said something meaningful, we'd hear about it.
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