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The new W3C #ActivityPub Working Group is not that.

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    The new W3C #ActivityPub Working Group is not that. Or not just that. It's a "Social Web" Working Group and includes maintenance of ActivityPub, WebSub, Activity Streams, Activity Vocabulary, MicroPub, Linked Data Notifications, Webmention, and LOLA specifications. Maintaining all these disparate specs in one WG seems like it will lead to similar results as the first time this was tried (not great). What's that saying about doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results? 🙃

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      The new W3C #ActivityPub Working Group is not that. Or not just that. It's a "Social Web" Working Group and includes maintenance of ActivityPub, WebSub, Activity Streams, Activity Vocabulary, MicroPub, Linked Data Notifications, Webmention, and LOLA specifications. Maintaining all these disparate specs in one WG seems like it will lead to similar results as the first time this was tried (not great). What's that saying about doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results? 🙃

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      On the W3C SocialCG mailing list, I saw that @evan wrote "The WG ... is focused on a narrow core: Activity Streams and ActivityPub." The WG charter describes a much broader scope. What am I missing?

      /cc @darius @trwnh
      #ActivityPub

      https://www.w3.org/2026/01/social-web-wg-charter.html

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        On the W3C SocialCG mailing list, I saw that @evan wrote "The WG ... is focused on a narrow core: Activity Streams and ActivityPub." The WG charter describes a much broader scope. What am I missing?

        /cc @darius @trwnh
        #ActivityPub

        https://www.w3.org/2026/01/social-web-wg-charter.html

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        @eyeinthesky @evan @darius i believe the rechartering process led up to people landing on more or less the following:

        - the primary reason for rechartering is that AP people want to work on updating AP/AS2
        - however, there are other specs which also need updates, but don't want to recharter separately
        - the w3c liaisons advised making the charter broader rather than narrower, to avoid potentially needing to amend the charter
        - the work will be driven primarily by availability of editors

        iirc?

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          @eyeinthesky @evan @darius i believe the rechartering process led up to people landing on more or less the following:

          - the primary reason for rechartering is that AP people want to work on updating AP/AS2
          - however, there are other specs which also need updates, but don't want to recharter separately
          - the w3c liaisons advised making the charter broader rather than narrower, to avoid potentially needing to amend the charter
          - the work will be driven primarily by availability of editors

          iirc?

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          @eyeinthesky @evan @darius a lot of this is probably in https://github.com/swicg/meetings but you'll have to find it first -- it's not in one piece

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            @eyeinthesky @evan @darius i believe the rechartering process led up to people landing on more or less the following:

            - the primary reason for rechartering is that AP people want to work on updating AP/AS2
            - however, there are other specs which also need updates, but don't want to recharter separately
            - the w3c liaisons advised making the charter broader rather than narrower, to avoid potentially needing to amend the charter
            - the work will be driven primarily by availability of editors

            iirc?

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            @trwnh @evan @darius So maybe the narrow WG focus is aspirational (or participant-specific) rather than official. I've read that Indieweb leaders like Tantek will be involved so that sounds like there's interest from them too. Maybe there will be somewhat independent subgroups working on different subsets of specs?

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              On the W3C SocialCG mailing list, I saw that @evan wrote "The WG ... is focused on a narrow core: Activity Streams and ActivityPub." The WG charter describes a much broader scope. What am I missing?

              /cc @darius @trwnh
              #ActivityPub

              https://www.w3.org/2026/01/social-web-wg-charter.html

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              @eyeinthesky @evan @trwnh the charter has the correct scope. I believe Evan was responding to discussion about the Fediverse and trying to point out the venn diagram overlap of Fediverse and WG charter. As such, indieweb stuff didn't factor in to that conversation. Or at least that was my read -- I raised an eyebrow when I read the email too!

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