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As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

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  • rgegriff (On a new server)R rgegriff (On a new server)

    As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

    Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

    leah's tiny pc retirement homeM This user is from outside of this forum
    leah's tiny pc retirement homeM This user is from outside of this forum
    leah's tiny pc retirement home
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    @rgegriff i dunno, but they might need these: 🫲 🫱 🗺️ 🔦

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    • rgegriff (On a new server)R rgegriff (On a new server)

      As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

      Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

      VladimirC This user is from outside of this forum
      VladimirC This user is from outside of this forum
      Vladimir
      wrote last edited by
      #8

      @rgegriff
      >what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?
      Rich text in Notepad.

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      • rgegriff (On a new server)R rgegriff (On a new server)

        As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

        Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

        New Year, New BlueA This user is from outside of this forum
        New Year, New BlueA This user is from outside of this forum
        New Year, New Blue
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        @rgegriff Force-feeding AI is my biggest complaint.

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        • T045TT T045T

          @rgegriff they literally rolled out multiple auto-updates that bricked Windows 11 PCs in the past month alone.

          it's bad.

          Matt CrawfordT This user is from outside of this forum
          Matt CrawfordT This user is from outside of this forum
          Matt Crawford
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          #10

          @T045T @rgegriff are they vibe coding updates?

          George Liquor, AmericanL T045TT Kevin RussellK The Tattooed Nonna 🫒T 4 Replies Last reply
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          • rgegriff (On a new server)R rgegriff (On a new server)

            As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

            Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

            PomaxT This user is from outside of this forum
            PomaxT This user is from outside of this forum
            Pomax
            wrote last edited by
            #11

            @rgegriff they took an OS, and turned it into "now what if you had no control over what it does, and also it just does whatever it wants, not what it *should* do".

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            • rgegriff (On a new server)R rgegriff (On a new server)

              As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

              Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

              ZerodimeZ This user is from outside of this forum
              ZerodimeZ This user is from outside of this forum
              Zerodime
              wrote last edited by
              #12

              @rgegriff Easy, M$ tries to think for their customers, instead of with them. Also money! PRoblem is, it's still working, as companies don't want to switch and they are the ones M$ really makes money with.

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              • Matt CrawfordT Matt Crawford

                @T045T @rgegriff are they vibe coding updates?

                George Liquor, AmericanL This user is from outside of this forum
                George Liquor, AmericanL This user is from outside of this forum
                George Liquor, American
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                @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff YES AND DON'T CALL IT SLOP
                #MicroSlop

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                • Matt CrawfordT Matt Crawford

                  @T045T @rgegriff are they vibe coding updates?

                  T045TT This user is from outside of this forum
                  T045TT This user is from outside of this forum
                  T045T
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                  #14

                  @thecrawford @rgegriff eh. probably more down to shifting resources to copilot and firing people that were Windows experts (admittedly I don’t have any data to back that up, but it tracks with what all the tech companies have been doing)

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                  • rgegriff (On a new server)R rgegriff (On a new server)

                    As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                    Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

                    JonathanJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    JonathanJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    Jonathan
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                    @rgegriff Windows 11 is what three trillion dollars looks like 🤪
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                    • sungoS sungo

                      @rgegriff If corporations were actually people, I'd have called for a mental health check on microsoft a long time ago. Something is not right up in that brain pan and they need some new meds or to break up with that abusive lover or something. Shit ain't right.

                      fabiosantoscodeF This user is from outside of this forum
                      fabiosantoscodeF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @sungo @rgegriff if corporations are people, why aren't hundreds of them in jail?

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                      • Matt CrawfordT Matt Crawford

                        @T045T @rgegriff are they vibe coding updates?

                        Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
                        Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
                        Kevin Russell
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                        #17

                        @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

                        The President of Microsoft says 30% of their code is AI -- and its taking down their OS.

                        Vibe Coded Bankruptcy.

                        https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/29/satya-nadella-says-as-much-as-30percent-of-microsoft-code-is-written-by-ai.html

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                        • Kevin RussellK Kevin Russell

                          @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

                          The President of Microsoft says 30% of their code is AI -- and its taking down their OS.

                          Vibe Coded Bankruptcy.

                          https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/29/satya-nadella-says-as-much-as-30percent-of-microsoft-code-is-written-by-ai.html

                          Matt CrawfordT This user is from outside of this forum
                          Matt CrawfordT This user is from outside of this forum
                          Matt Crawford
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                          @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff Ironically I guess I'm very naive to this, considering I couldn't update off windows 10 due to old hardware so migrated fully to Linux anyway last year.

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                          • rgegriff (On a new server)R rgegriff (On a new server)

                            As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                            Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

                            Moses IzumiM This user is from outside of this forum
                            Moses IzumiM This user is from outside of this forum
                            Moses Izumi
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                            @rgegriff The window managers (I've mainly used XFCE and KDE) have a lot of nifty features: stuff that could've been implemented during Windows 8 if it was designed by the Powertoys and Sysinternals people instead of a coked-up touchscreen salesman.

                            The Metro environment worked kinda well on tablets, but I'm still shocked that Microsoft completely ignored the ramifications of forcing a half-baked parallel ecosystem of fullscreen-only applications onto every desktop, and replacing the startmenu with a fullscreen version.

                            My dad still gets fired up when reminded of the Windows RT situation: MS ported the entire OS to energy efficient ARM systems only to ban them from running any desktop software beyond Office and the mediocre pack-in stuff (because they didn't allow desktop apps on the Windows Store).

                            The Copilot push is arguably less agressive, in the sense that it seems to be sequestered to action buttons in applications, along with the telemetry/spyware/adware that's been active by default since 10.
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                            • Matt CrawfordT Matt Crawford

                              @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff Ironically I guess I'm very naive to this, considering I couldn't update off windows 10 due to old hardware so migrated fully to Linux anyway last year.

                              Andrew DeaconA This user is from outside of this forum
                              Andrew DeaconA This user is from outside of this forum
                              Andrew Deacon
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                              @thecrawford @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff I migrated to Linux (linuxmint) when Windows 7 died, I looked at Win8 and said no way.I have not used Windows since then.(and I don’t miss it)

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                              • fabiosantoscodeF fabiosantoscode

                                @sungo @rgegriff if corporations are people, why aren't hundreds of them in jail?

                                Jordan BiserkovJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                Jordan BiserkovJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                Jordan Biserkov
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                                #21

                                @fabiosantoscode @sungo @rgegriff
                                Because they use their money as “free speech“ to bribe politicians.
                                if that sounds like the incoherent ramblings of a conspiracy theorist check out this Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

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                                • Andrew DeaconA Andrew Deacon

                                  @thecrawford @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff I migrated to Linux (linuxmint) when Windows 7 died, I looked at Win8 and said no way.I have not used Windows since then.(and I don’t miss it)

                                  Matt CrawfordT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Matt CrawfordT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Matt Crawford
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                                  @aadeacon @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff I skipped 8, but still mostly use my pc for gaming which, until recently, could only be done on windows.

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                                  • Andrew DeaconA Andrew Deacon

                                    @thecrawford @kevinrns @T045T @rgegriff I migrated to Linux (linuxmint) when Windows 7 died, I looked at Win8 and said no way.I have not used Windows since then.(and I don’t miss it)

                                    Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Kevin Russell
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                                    @aadeacon @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

                                    #Linux loves immigrants.

                                    🐧 ❤️ 🫵

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                                    • Kevin RussellK Kevin Russell

                                      @aadeacon @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

                                      #Linux loves immigrants.

                                      🐧 ❤️ 🫵

                                      Matt CrawfordT This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Matt CrawfordT This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Matt Crawford
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                                      @kevinrns @aadeacon @T045T @rgegriff I've been using it on and off for work for a decade, just never on my personal devices.

                                      I've recently migrated a second hand intel MacBook to fedora as it was cheap now they've announced the drop of support for them!

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                                      • rgegriff (On a new server)R rgegriff (On a new server)

                                        As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                                        Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

                                        Mandrake 🐎M This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Mandrake 🐎M This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Mandrake 🐎
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                                        @rgegriff Microsoft is literally telling their users that they need to throw their computers in the trash and buy a brand new one during the middle of a RAM price hike so that they can continue watching YouTube and playing Balatro

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                                        • Kevin RussellK Kevin Russell

                                          @aadeacon @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

                                          #Linux loves immigrants.

                                          🐧 ❤️ 🫵

                                          Andrew DeaconA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Andrew DeaconA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Andrew Deacon
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                                          #26

                                          @kevinrns @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff I love immigrants, which is a good thing as I live in Leicester

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