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  3. here’s a worked example of why nobody believes firefox’s AI kill switch will be anything but a marketing wedge

here’s a worked example of why nobody believes firefox’s AI kill switch will be anything but a marketing wedge

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    here’s a worked example of why nobody believes firefox’s AI kill switch will be anything but a marketing wedge

    these showed up in my File menu, displacing the New Private Window item and fucking up my muscle memory, in spite of having browser.ml.enabled set to false. the setting for this is a new nonsensically named option, extensions.ml.enabled. a merry fuck you to the guys who showed up in my replies telling me to just disable the config flag I already disabled months ago.

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      here’s a worked example of why nobody believes firefox’s AI kill switch will be anything but a marketing wedge

      these showed up in my File menu, displacing the New Private Window item and fucking up my muscle memory, in spite of having browser.ml.enabled set to false. the setting for this is a new nonsensically named option, extensions.ml.enabled. a merry fuck you to the guys who showed up in my replies telling me to just disable the config flag I already disabled months ago.

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      let’s look at mozilla’s marketing blog: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/

      >Completely opt-in, you have full control, and if you try it and find it’s not for you, you can choose to switch it off.

      haha no, I did nothing to opt into this. I opted out as strongly as I could and it still showed up to displace a menu item I frequently use. disabling it in my version of Firefox required yet another dive into about:config.

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        let’s look at mozilla’s marketing blog: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/

        >Completely opt-in, you have full control, and if you try it and find it’s not for you, you can choose to switch it off.

        haha no, I did nothing to opt into this. I opted out as strongly as I could and it still showed up to displace a menu item I frequently use. disabling it in my version of Firefox required yet another dive into about:config.

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        but speaking of rolling out half-baked shit to users who didn’t ask for it, attached is all the documentation I could find for whatever the fuck the New Classic Window item is

        the New Classic Window item disappeared when I disabled extensions.ml.enabled so it’s related but fuck if I could tell you how

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          let’s look at mozilla’s marketing blog: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/

          >Completely opt-in, you have full control, and if you try it and find it’s not for you, you can choose to switch it off.

          haha no, I did nothing to opt into this. I opted out as strongly as I could and it still showed up to displace a menu item I frequently use. disabling it in my version of Firefox required yet another dive into about:config.

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          @zzt "Why is investing in AI important for Firefox?" the question I want answered but know it won't be

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            but speaking of rolling out half-baked shit to users who didn’t ask for it, attached is all the documentation I could find for whatever the fuck the New Classic Window item is

            the New Classic Window item disappeared when I disabled extensions.ml.enabled so it’s related but fuck if I could tell you how

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            if you bring this up with mozilla, they’ll pretend you must have accidentally opted in somehow! mozilla has admitted to operating on a different definition of opt-in from the rest of the world; theirs omits user consent.

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              let’s look at mozilla’s marketing blog: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/

              >Completely opt-in, you have full control, and if you try it and find it’s not for you, you can choose to switch it off.

              haha no, I did nothing to opt into this. I opted out as strongly as I could and it still showed up to displace a menu item I frequently use. disabling it in my version of Firefox required yet another dive into about:config.

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              @zzt the deployment of the new feature flags will continue until the user opts into defeat, sagging from exhaustion at having to defensively check their browser every 72 seconds

              this fucking pattern got big with facebook (you know, that beacon of user consent) since like **2012**, it is absolutely fucking wild to me that any moz person does this shit with a straight face then calls it choice. absolute fucking gaslighting

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                @zzt the deployment of the new feature flags will continue until the user opts into defeat, sagging from exhaustion at having to defensively check their browser every 72 seconds

                this fucking pattern got big with facebook (you know, that beacon of user consent) since like **2012**, it is absolutely fucking wild to me that any moz person does this shit with a straight face then calls it choice. absolute fucking gaslighting

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                @zzt and then of course this toot stands a chance to get the bonus round of some weird fucker koolaidmanning through the wall and arguing about whether gaslighting has absolutes

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                  @zzt and then of course this toot stands a chance to get the bonus round of some weird fucker koolaidmanning through the wall and arguing about whether gaslighting has absolutes

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                  @froztbyte ❌ steelmanning

                  ✅ koolaidmanning

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