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How to tell a formerly respectable brand has jumped the shark (after selling out to Qualcomm, who are their own special species of shitbaggery):

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  • jasegJ jaseg

    @cstross @adafruit For context, at least the symbol shown on screen does not look like something I’d accept quality wise for a library symbol. It has inconsistent pin spacing, the power pins should be on the top/bottom edges, for this kind of part the EP and GND pins should be stacked, the GND pin should be on grid, and the I2C pins should be on the left side of the symbol to preserve reading direction.

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    @jaseg @cstross @adafruit yeah, this doesn't even meet my own low standards for personal projects, let alone something I wouldn't reject if the part librarian at work tried to pass it off to me.

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      RE: https://fosstodon.org/@adafruit/116071513892549636

      How to tell a formerly respectable brand has jumped the shark (after selling out to Qualcomm, who are their own special species of shitbaggery):

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      @cstross
      This makes me sad. It's not the only thing that does, but it is one.

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        RE: https://fosstodon.org/@adafruit/116071513892549636

        How to tell a formerly respectable brand has jumped the shark (after selling out to Qualcomm, who are their own special species of shitbaggery):

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        @cstross posts something wrong, does not edit or correct, gets a ton of people to pile on for showing what a new tool can and can't do... adafruit did not "sell out to Qualcomm" either. we are vc-free, loan-free, NYC, usa manufacturer, open-source... Charles why is wrong for a woman to experiment & use a tool to make her job easier? My company is Adafruit, not Arduino btw - Limor

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          @cazabon @cstross too late, he did it about 8 hours ago and kept going, any way - he caused a giant pile-on, we updated our post ... in the "UPDATE – Men on Mastodon" section ... https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/02/14/heres-our-first-gemini-deep-think-llm-assisted-hardware-design/

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          • adafruitA adafruit

            @cstross posts something wrong, does not edit or correct, gets a ton of people to pile on for showing what a new tool can and can't do... adafruit did not "sell out to Qualcomm" either. we are vc-free, loan-free, NYC, usa manufacturer, open-source... Charles why is wrong for a woman to experiment & use a tool to make her job easier? My company is Adafruit, not Arduino btw - Limor

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            @adafruit @cstross > decided to target Limor since she shared it
            i wonder how he would have known who shared it or that you are a woman. seems like overreaction and bad spirit both ways
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            • adafruitA adafruit

              @cazabon @cstross too late, he did it about 8 hours ago and kept going, any way - he caused a giant pile-on, we updated our post ... in the "UPDATE – Men on Mastodon" section ... https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/02/14/heres-our-first-gemini-deep-think-llm-assisted-hardware-design/

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              @adafruit @cazabon @cstross I gotta say I'm disappointed in @cstross for this. I mean it's one thing to be against AI, it's another to sabotage a small industry business like this.

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              • SablebadgerS Sablebadger

                @adafruit @cazabon @cstross I gotta say I'm disappointed in @cstross for this. I mean it's one thing to be against AI, it's another to sabotage a small industry business like this.

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                @Sablebadger Guys like @cstross do this to women online all the time, more so to ones that do open-source or electronics (like Limor), even after being told he targeted a different company, person, etc, he let it ride and went for the shares and stars... one his most popular ones already. Check out the pile on, it's... piling.

                @adafruit @cazabon

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                • David BeazleyD David Beazley

                  @Oggie @cstross My dog made two poops on one walk the other day.

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                  @dabeaz @Oggie @cstross
                  My dog dropped an almost perfect 3D print of the poop emoji a couple of years ago. I took a few photos (obviously) but never posted them online at the time.

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                  • adafruitA adafruit

                    @cazabon @cstross too late, he did it about 8 hours ago and kept going, any way - he caused a giant pile-on, we updated our post ... in the "UPDATE – Men on Mastodon" section ... https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/02/14/heres-our-first-gemini-deep-think-llm-assisted-hardware-design/

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                    @adafruit @cstross I saw the adafruit post, and the people telling you to get out because of using llm's before the bad post from cstross. In his thread someone pointed out he confused Arduino & Adafruit, and he confirmed but hasn't updated the main post. Using an llm and getting push-back on it was all you though. #noai

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                    • adafruitA adafruit

                      @cstross posts something wrong, does not edit or correct, gets a ton of people to pile on for showing what a new tool can and can't do... adafruit did not "sell out to Qualcomm" either. we are vc-free, loan-free, NYC, usa manufacturer, open-source... Charles why is wrong for a woman to experiment & use a tool to make her job easier? My company is Adafruit, not Arduino btw - Limor

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                      @adafruit @cstross so much respect and love Limor!!

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                      • SablebadgerS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @cazabon @ptorrone @cstross @adafruit I do read his stuff, that's why I'm sorry disappointed by his actions.

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                        • SablebadgerS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @cazabon @adafruit @cstross then why hasn't he walked it back if it was such a simple mistake...

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                          • maaneeackM maaneeack

                            @adafruit @cstross I saw the adafruit post, and the people telling you to get out because of using llm's before the bad post from cstross. In his thread someone pointed out he confused Arduino & Adafruit, and he confirmed but hasn't updated the main post. Using an llm and getting push-back on it was all you though. #noai

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                            @maaneeack @adafruit @cstross i understand disagreeing about ethical issues.

                            I don’t get public humiliation and an attempt to erase everything Limor has done for aspiring nerds.

                            The intolerance is intolerable.

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                            • knowuhK knowuh

                              @maaneeack @adafruit @cstross i understand disagreeing about ethical issues.

                              I don’t get public humiliation and an attempt to erase everything Limor has done for aspiring nerds.

                              The intolerance is intolerable.

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                              @knowuh @adafruit @cstross llms as they are now are antitechnology & antiknowledge. They're using stolen data to train, stealing power & water to run, and people's ability to think. It'd be one thing if adafruit used an llm they trained on data they owned, instead they used fucking gemini of all things.

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                RE: https://fosstodon.org/@adafruit/116071513892549636

                                How to tell a formerly respectable brand has jumped the shark (after selling out to Qualcomm, who are their own special species of shitbaggery):

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                                @cstross

                                Dude, you done messed up.

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                                • maaneeackM maaneeack

                                  @knowuh @adafruit @cstross llms as they are now are antitechnology & antiknowledge. They're using stolen data to train, stealing power & water to run, and people's ability to think. It'd be one thing if adafruit used an llm they trained on data they owned, instead they used fucking gemini of all things.

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                                  @maaneeack @knowuh @cstross Please read our articles, we use the hundreds of open-source libraries I made and released, as open-source, and used for many of the experiments you see. It is trained on my code and I ask it to "write code like me" (but you can block, why read it?) - Limor

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                                  • adafruitA adafruit

                                    @maaneeack @knowuh @cstross Please read our articles, we use the hundreds of open-source libraries I made and released, as open-source, and used for many of the experiments you see. It is trained on my code and I ask it to "write code like me" (but you can block, why read it?) - Limor

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                                    @adafruit @knowuh @cstross we don't want a llm that is limoresque, we want Limor & Adafruit

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                                    • adafruitA adafruit

                                      @cstross posts something wrong, does not edit or correct, gets a ton of people to pile on for showing what a new tool can and can't do... adafruit did not "sell out to Qualcomm" either. we are vc-free, loan-free, NYC, usa manufacturer, open-source... Charles why is wrong for a woman to experiment & use a tool to make her job easier? My company is Adafruit, not Arduino btw - Limor

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                                      @adafruit
                                      I'm so sorry you're going through this pile-up, Limor.
                                      It's confirming me in keeping my open source work off social media. I know I'm not strong enough or big enough to deal with such attacks.
                                      Thanks for your work! I've also started using LLMs, it can be quite useful.

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                                      • adafruitA adafruit

                                        @cstross posts something wrong, does not edit or correct, gets a ton of people to pile on for showing what a new tool can and can't do... adafruit did not "sell out to Qualcomm" either. we are vc-free, loan-free, NYC, usa manufacturer, open-source... Charles why is wrong for a woman to experiment & use a tool to make her job easier? My company is Adafruit, not Arduino btw - Limor

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                                        @adafruit @cstross

                                        I had someone try to tell me AI doing the work is like having an auto transmission instead of a manual. OK, I can kind of see that.It does the work to get you moving. For the Rav4 no way would I want a manual but a small Sports car that's half the fun.

                                        While I would not use AI to write code because I want to know what is in it and understand it. I could see using it for Hardware. That is close to automated anyways. Instead of setting up nets , moving part around and letting the pcb design software make the traces you are describing what you want.

                                        Which probably would have me pounding my head on the table when I can't make the darn thing understand what I wanted it to do

                                        Plus my boards are usually not that complex .

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                                        • adafruitA adafruit

                                          @cazabon @cstross too late, he did it about 8 hours ago and kept going, any way - he caused a giant pile-on, we updated our post ... in the "UPDATE – Men on Mastodon" section ... https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/02/14/heres-our-first-gemini-deep-think-llm-assisted-hardware-design/

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                                          @adafruit @cazabon@mindly.social @cstross So sorry you have to deal with this. LLMs are a tool which can be used for good or bad like any tool.

                                          On another note, this is giving me some nice additions to my account blacklist

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