Emdash fans!
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@mcc Yes and no. It depends on the length of the content behind or within the emdash or if the emdash closes. If it's just a word or phrase, especially at the end of a larger statement, I don't. If it contains a longer statement, I do.
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I was about to say that we'd never dream of putting space around a long dash, but I think I have in fact done that for some obscure practical reason that I can't remember…I think it was simply to make sure that the character wasn't considered part of a URL or something of that sort. ~Chara of Pnictogen
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@mcc it depends on the font I'm using, because sometimes—like this—I will use an em-dash without spaces, and sometimes – like this – I will use an EN dash with spaces, depending on what I think looks better.
Em dashes with spaces seems superfluous to me in all cases though.
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@mcc obviously the first one—how could I not always go for the Chicago Style emdash
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@mcc Real pros — like me — — — put mdashes around their mdashes.
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@mcc Being from an en-dash kind of language, spaces are absolutely necessary for my eyes when em-dashes are used for a break in thoughts — without them, it just parses as a hyphen and it throws me every single time when reading e.g. a novel typeset without any space around em-dashes.
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@mcc oh— this doesn't look good for me...
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@mcc@mastodon.social absolutely — they just look nicer that way.
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@mcc oh— this doesn't look good for me...
@vn i share your concern
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@mcc It's complicated. In plain text I use two hyphens with spaces around them -- like this. When I do proper typesetting, no spaces—like this.
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@mcc @mayintoronto I think em-dash with no spaces is insane, given what it's supposed to do: create a long pause.
Why drag the words together while creating a pause? Give it some air!
And, It's supposed to be a longer pause than n-dash, right? But when you omit the spaces, it's actually shorter!
Anyway, I don't use it. When I want a long payse, I use " … " .
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@mcc Chicago Manual of Style (my preferred guide) has no spaces around em dashes, for example from 6.91:
> She outlined the strategy—a strategy that would, she hoped, secure the peace.
> My friends—that is, my former friends—ganged up on me.
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@mcc@mastodon.social yes — i use hair space
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@mcc I do both sides, usually. I don't when using it to show abrupt changes in something's flow, like conversation interruptions or surprises, ect.
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@mcc@mastodon.social yes — i use hair space
@xarvos advanced strats
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@mcc
Normally they belong on both sides. *However*, if the em dash represents interruption in mid-word, you only use a space afterward, not on both sides.Oh, and for those who want to back things up with a style guide? Spaces on both sides is Associated Press style.
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@mcc ummmm… you forgot ―much to my chagrin― one other option.
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@mcc ummmm… you forgot ―much to my chagrin― one other option.
