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I want this but as a Linux distribution.

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  • mccM This user is from outside of this forum
    mccM This user is from outside of this forum
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    RE: https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/116108957641748718

    I want this but as a Linux distribution. I don't think I'm asking for much here. I am just asking for the "open source community" to be to the left of Goldman Sachs

    Ariadne Conill ๐Ÿฐ:therian:A mccM Fabian TranschelF Brett Edmond CarlockB 4 Replies Last reply
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    • mccM mcc

      RE: https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/116108957641748718

      I want this but as a Linux distribution. I don't think I'm asking for much here. I am just asking for the "open source community" to be to the left of Goldman Sachs

      Ariadne Conill ๐Ÿฐ:therian:A This user is from outside of this forum
      Ariadne Conill ๐Ÿฐ:therian:A This user is from outside of this forum
      Ariadne Conill ๐Ÿฐ:therian:
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      #2

      @mcc what do you mean? in the Alpine sphere, @postmarketOS already adopted an anti-AI policy, which will probably be adopted by Alpine too.

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      • mccM mcc

        RE: https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/116108957641748718

        I want this but as a Linux distribution. I don't think I'm asking for much here. I am just asking for the "open source community" to be to the left of Goldman Sachs

        mccM This user is from outside of this forum
        mccM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

        https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/tree/main/.claude

        GlyphG Irenes (many)I Itamar Turner-TrauringI AislingL Jeff CloughJ 8 Replies Last reply
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        • mccM mcc

          RE: https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/116108957641748718

          I want this but as a Linux distribution. I don't think I'm asking for much here. I am just asking for the "open source community" to be to the left of Goldman Sachs

          Fabian TranschelF This user is from outside of this forum
          Fabian TranschelF This user is from outside of this forum
          Fabian Transchel
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          #4

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@knoppix95/116104645693904284

          @mcc Have you seen https://norden.social/@knoppix95@mastodon.social/116104645844598267 and alike?

          I think apart from Mozilla, most projects are on board to fight or at least block AI.

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          • Ariadne Conill ๐Ÿฐ:therian:A Ariadne Conill ๐Ÿฐ:therian:

            @mcc what do you mean? in the Alpine sphere, @postmarketOS already adopted an anti-AI policy, which will probably be adopted by Alpine too.

            mccM This user is from outside of this forum
            mccM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @ariadne I am, in a flippant and general way, saying I want to eradicate all code with "AI code assistant" contributions from my computer and VPSes, but I do not currently know a way to do so. I keep having programs I previously installed add the poison after the fact without public notice. https://mastodon.social/@mcc/116110912928005524

            Perhaps in future I will have to use Alpine Linux if that's how I get my code audited for no "AI" contributions.

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            • mccM mcc

              My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

              https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/tree/main/.claude

              GlyphG This user is from outside of this forum
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              @mcc the double (triple?) entendre of "random code generator" here is really upsetting

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              • Fabian TranschelF Fabian Transchel

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@knoppix95/116104645693904284

                @mcc Have you seen https://norden.social/@knoppix95@mastodon.social/116104645844598267 and alike?

                I think apart from Mozilla, most projects are on board to fight or at least block AI.

                mccM This user is from outside of this forum
                mccM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @ftranschel "I can get LLM corruption out of all the software in my computer except my web browser and password manager", in addition to being at this point afaik still aspirational, is kindaโ€ฆ that's not a good outcome. The web browser and password manager have extreme permissions and extreme capacity to do harm.

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                • mccM mcc

                  My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

                  https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/tree/main/.claude

                  Irenes (many)I This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @mcc yeah. shit.

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                  • mccM mcc

                    @ftranschel "I can get LLM corruption out of all the software in my computer except my web browser and password manager", in addition to being at this point afaik still aspirational, is kindaโ€ฆ that's not a good outcome. The web browser and password manager have extreme permissions and extreme capacity to do harm.

                    mccM This user is from outside of this forum
                    mccM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @ftranschel In addition, I have committed a tremendous error which is now coming back to bite me: I installed software written by BlueSky PBC

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                    • mccM mcc

                      My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

                      https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/tree/main/.claude

                      Itamar Turner-TrauringI This user is from outside of this forum
                      Itamar Turner-TrauringI This user is from outside of this forum
                      Itamar Turner-Trauring
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                      @mcc 1Password says "We want team members at all levels to take the approach of actively learning AI best practices, identifying opportunities to apply AI in meaningful ways, and driving innovative solutions in their daily work. Embracing the future of AI isn't just encouraged at 1Passwordโ€”it's an essential part of how we will be successful at 1Password."

                      Pretty upset about KeepassXC on a personal level.

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                      • Itamar Turner-TrauringI Itamar Turner-Trauring

                        @mcc 1Password says "We want team members at all levels to take the approach of actively learning AI best practices, identifying opportunities to apply AI in meaningful ways, and driving innovative solutions in their daily work. Embracing the future of AI isn't just encouraged at 1Passwordโ€”it's an essential part of how we will be successful at 1Password."

                        Pretty upset about KeepassXC on a personal level.

                        mccM This user is from outside of this forum
                        mccM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @itamarst Well, there is no universe where I would consider using 1password, but I guess that's still good to know

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                        • mccM mcc

                          @itamarst Well, there is no universe where I would consider using 1password, but I guess that's still good to know

                          GlyphG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @mcc @itamarst it's a solidarity building exercise, now we can all be upset together

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                          • mccM mcc

                            My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

                            https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/tree/main/.claude

                            AislingL This user is from outside of this forum
                            AislingL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @mcc โ€ฆshit

                            WideEyedCurious ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ & ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆW 1 Reply Last reply
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                            • GlyphG Glyph

                              @mcc @itamarst it's a solidarity building exercise, now we can all be upset together

                              GlyphG This user is from outside of this forum
                              GlyphG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @mcc @itamarst this is a bit tangential to the whole thing but that phrasing bothers me a LOT. "an essential part" โ€” is it? is it "essential?" where was it five years ago? and three years from now, when everyone, even the most braindead useless dead-weight MBA executive, finally realizes that it doesn't fucking work at all, will it still be "essential" then? or is the plan to stop being successful?

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                              • mccM mcc

                                My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

                                https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/tree/main/.claude

                                Jeff CloughJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                Jeff CloughJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @mcc Yeah, KeePassXC going this route really hurt. I'm probably going to migrate back to a text file encrypted with gnupg for basic password management, but I have no idea what I'm going to use for one-time passcodes.

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                                • GlyphG Glyph

                                  @mcc @itamarst this is a bit tangential to the whole thing but that phrasing bothers me a LOT. "an essential part" โ€” is it? is it "essential?" where was it five years ago? and three years from now, when everyone, even the most braindead useless dead-weight MBA executive, finally realizes that it doesn't fucking work at all, will it still be "essential" then? or is the plan to stop being successful?

                                  GlyphG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @mcc @itamarst obviously this bothers me because it's a common trope at this point

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                                  • AislingL Aisling

                                    @mcc โ€ฆshit

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                                    @Lingmops @mcc Iโ€™m beginning to feel as if Iโ€™m gonna need to head back to just saving my pswds in a text file on my computer again. ๐Ÿซค

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                                    • GlyphG Glyph

                                      @mcc @itamarst this is a bit tangential to the whole thing but that phrasing bothers me a LOT. "an essential part" โ€” is it? is it "essential?" where was it five years ago? and three years from now, when everyone, even the most braindead useless dead-weight MBA executive, finally realizes that it doesn't fucking work at all, will it still be "essential" then? or is the plan to stop being successful?

                                      mccM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      mccM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      mcc
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                                      @glyph @itamarst i'm assuming they'll go directly to "ah, we're already using it, so we can't back it out now" even in orgs where the primary driver of it being used was executive mandates that each employee use a certain number of AI tokens per month

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                                      • mccM mcc

                                        My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

                                        https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/tree/main/.claude

                                        Karel P KerezmanG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @mcc I admit I don't know the KeePass ecosystem terribly well, but does this go "up the chain" to regular KeePass 2.x or is it just XC?

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                                        • mccM mcc

                                          RE: https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/116108957641748718

                                          I want this but as a Linux distribution. I don't think I'm asking for much here. I am just asking for the "open source community" to be to the left of Goldman Sachs

                                          Brett Edmond CarlockB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Brett Edmond Carlock
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                                          @mcc I am dropping/switching any FOSS tools that I know are using GenAI/LLMs and it is getting bleak -_-

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