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  3. When GenAI rolled along I was massively dissuaded from working on my creative endeavours and sharing them with people.

When GenAI rolled along I was massively dissuaded from working on my creative endeavours and sharing them with people.

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    When GenAI rolled along I was massively dissuaded from working on my creative endeavours and sharing them with people.

    Not because I desire agency over my IP above, but to deny the tech giants of it. I denied myself the most human of things to spite soulless corporations.

    Lately I’ve been picking up those creative pursuits again, because what I’ve noticed is that the people that actually matter want you output anyway, even when everything created by anyone, ever, is at their fingertips.

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      When GenAI rolled along I was massively dissuaded from working on my creative endeavours and sharing them with people.

      Not because I desire agency over my IP above, but to deny the tech giants of it. I denied myself the most human of things to spite soulless corporations.

      Lately I’ve been picking up those creative pursuits again, because what I’ve noticed is that the people that actually matter want you output anyway, even when everything created by anyone, ever, is at their fingertips.

      David Penfold :verified:D This user is from outside of this forum
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      @SecurityWriter 🙏

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        When GenAI rolled along I was massively dissuaded from working on my creative endeavours and sharing them with people.

        Not because I desire agency over my IP above, but to deny the tech giants of it. I denied myself the most human of things to spite soulless corporations.

        Lately I’ve been picking up those creative pursuits again, because what I’ve noticed is that the people that actually matter want you output anyway, even when everything created by anyone, ever, is at their fingertips.

        Security Writer :donor:S This user is from outside of this forum
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        An identical song, book, or painting; one created by GenAI, one by artists and authors are not the same. One tells a story of people, culture, of sacrifice, emotion, human experience, and the connectedness of all things.

        The other is devoid of meaning or merit. A near-enough cacophony of ones and zeros, stolen from its nearest neighbour.

        And should always, always, be treated as such.

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          An identical song, book, or painting; one created by GenAI, one by artists and authors are not the same. One tells a story of people, culture, of sacrifice, emotion, human experience, and the connectedness of all things.

          The other is devoid of meaning or merit. A near-enough cacophony of ones and zeros, stolen from its nearest neighbour.

          And should always, always, be treated as such.

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          High sensitivity apparatus needs what’s called ‘low-background steel’ as anything after the Second World War is typically contaminated with trace readings of radiation.

          To obtain this, you have to retrieve pre-1940s battleships and submarines from the bottom of the sea.

          The same has already happened with AI.

          There was art and information before AI, everything else is contaminated.

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            High sensitivity apparatus needs what’s called ‘low-background steel’ as anything after the Second World War is typically contaminated with trace readings of radiation.

            To obtain this, you have to retrieve pre-1940s battleships and submarines from the bottom of the sea.

            The same has already happened with AI.

            There was art and information before AI, everything else is contaminated.

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            But what can happen, is that YOU can create zero background art.

            It doesn’t need to be good. It doesn’t need to make you money. It doesn’t even need to be shown to people. It needs to be done for the sake of doing.

            It needs to be human.

            And what a fucking momentous power you hold. Go make art you beautiful bastards.

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              When GenAI rolled along I was massively dissuaded from working on my creative endeavours and sharing them with people.

              Not because I desire agency over my IP above, but to deny the tech giants of it. I denied myself the most human of things to spite soulless corporations.

              Lately I’ve been picking up those creative pursuits again, because what I’ve noticed is that the people that actually matter want you output anyway, even when everything created by anyone, ever, is at their fingertips.

              Bookhouse InstituteB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @SecurityWriter

              I am hoping my creative pursuits are AI proof.

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                When GenAI rolled along I was massively dissuaded from working on my creative endeavours and sharing them with people.

                Not because I desire agency over my IP above, but to deny the tech giants of it. I denied myself the most human of things to spite soulless corporations.

                Lately I’ve been picking up those creative pursuits again, because what I’ve noticed is that the people that actually matter want you output anyway, even when everything created by anyone, ever, is at their fingertips.

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                @SecurityWriter also, I feel a significant difference between manually creating art or using genAI is that the latter involves more impression than expression:

                since making art takes a while, you have to delay judgement or even suppress it while working to get anywhere - the WIP constrains your imagination as it's evolving

                with genAI you get complete impressions all the time - that primes your imagination way harder, like watching a movie before reading the book it's based on

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                  But what can happen, is that YOU can create zero background art.

                  It doesn’t need to be good. It doesn’t need to make you money. It doesn’t even need to be shown to people. It needs to be done for the sake of doing.

                  It needs to be human.

                  And what a fucking momentous power you hold. Go make art you beautiful bastards.

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                  @SecurityWriter xox

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                    High sensitivity apparatus needs what’s called ‘low-background steel’ as anything after the Second World War is typically contaminated with trace readings of radiation.

                    To obtain this, you have to retrieve pre-1940s battleships and submarines from the bottom of the sea.

                    The same has already happened with AI.

                    There was art and information before AI, everything else is contaminated.

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                    @SecurityWriter omg, trying to research *anything* online is almost impossible! hard if you have any hobbies without exhaustive books around...

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                      An identical song, book, or painting; one created by GenAI, one by artists and authors are not the same. One tells a story of people, culture, of sacrifice, emotion, human experience, and the connectedness of all things.

                      The other is devoid of meaning or merit. A near-enough cacophony of ones and zeros, stolen from its nearest neighbour.

                      And should always, always, be treated as such.

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                      @SecurityWriter have you ever read the Borges essay about a man who rewrote Don Quixote, identically but hundreds of years later? it's amazing, both as reality and satire...

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                        But what can happen, is that YOU can create zero background art.

                        It doesn’t need to be good. It doesn’t need to make you money. It doesn’t even need to be shown to people. It needs to be done for the sake of doing.

                        It needs to be human.

                        And what a fucking momentous power you hold. Go make art you beautiful bastards.

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                        @SecurityWriter I'm INCREDIBLY uncreative (aphantasia among other things) but this actually made me feel like I should be making something anyway, and I find being motivated to be VERY rude. 😂

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                          But what can happen, is that YOU can create zero background art.

                          It doesn’t need to be good. It doesn’t need to make you money. It doesn’t even need to be shown to people. It needs to be done for the sake of doing.

                          It needs to be human.

                          And what a fucking momentous power you hold. Go make art you beautiful bastards.

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                          @SecurityWriter I put guitar chords together tonight that I've never heard played before. They were weird and droney and jangly. My fretting hand aches now. It was the best use of my free time this week.

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                            When GenAI rolled along I was massively dissuaded from working on my creative endeavours and sharing them with people.

                            Not because I desire agency over my IP above, but to deny the tech giants of it. I denied myself the most human of things to spite soulless corporations.

                            Lately I’ve been picking up those creative pursuits again, because what I’ve noticed is that the people that actually matter want you output anyway, even when everything created by anyone, ever, is at their fingertips.

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                            @SecurityWriter with the rise of AI, human craft is going to be more important and sought after than ever.

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                              @SecurityWriter I put guitar chords together tonight that I've never heard played before. They were weird and droney and jangly. My fretting hand aches now. It was the best use of my free time this week.

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                              @ozdreaming let me know what they are, I have just serviced all my guitars for the first time in 5 years.

                              Playing with some ambient low gain doom metal type things

                              Let me know what chords you found! And tuning 🙂

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                                But what can happen, is that YOU can create zero background art.

                                It doesn’t need to be good. It doesn’t need to make you money. It doesn’t even need to be shown to people. It needs to be done for the sake of doing.

                                It needs to be human.

                                And what a fucking momentous power you hold. Go make art you beautiful bastards.

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                                Tell me what you’re working on, or aren’t working on but should be!

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                                  @Proximyst @rapscalorie so many types of creativity you can still apply yourself to. In many ways aphantasia can be a real boon!

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                                    @SecurityWriter omg, trying to research *anything* online is almost impossible! hard if you have any hobbies without exhaustive books around...

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                                    @acm_redfox it is, but there are tools to help!

                                    I’ve been relying on archive.org and others more and more.

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                                      Tell me what you’re working on, or aren’t working on but should be!

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                                      @SecurityWriter I am developing a service for families to share access secrets and notifications in a way that protects their assets. Think bank account logins and policy.

                                      I was noodling it, but this article galvanized me:

                                      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/business/tech-support-scam-bank-fraud.html?unlocked_article_code=1.8U8.T4DG.3T98CKw0wBWP&smid=url-share

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                                        Tell me what you’re working on, or aren’t working on but should be!

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                                        @SecurityWriter a GIF "keyboard" with self-hosted search and tagging 👀

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                                          @SecurityWriter a GIF "keyboard" with self-hosted search and tagging 👀

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                                          @nCrazed sounds great to me! I’d use it. AND I have thousands of the weirdest memes known to man.

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