For the first time in my life, I have joined a political party other than Labour.
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Welcome!
@AspiringLuddite Thank you! Hahaha. Kind of you to let me in!
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@Remittancegirl the ecological parts are by necessity going to become defaults. Even if only by watching China roar away on renewables...
@rgarner THis is so true. It will, I'm sure, in the very near future, take up an enormous part of the political bandwidth as climate change worsens
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@rgarner THis is so true. It will, I'm sure, in the very near future, take up an enormous part of the political bandwidth as climate change worsens
@Remittancegirl I rode 10,000Km last year. Each year, I snorkel in Marathon Bay. In all the places I'm out and looking, life is receding quite noticeably. People are choosing not to see.
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@Remittancegirl I rode 10,000Km last year. Each year, I snorkel in Marathon Bay. In all the places I'm out and looking, life is receding quite noticeably. People are choosing not to see.
@rgarner No, I have always seen it. And cared. But I think one of the reasons I had not thought to join the Green Party before was because I really didn't think I could live up to the standards a lot of Greens had.
Now I'm old and I am fine admitting that I lack. I'll probably never live up to those standards, but I'm okay with that.
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@rgarner No, I have always seen it. And cared. But I think one of the reasons I had not thought to join the Green Party before was because I really didn't think I could live up to the standards a lot of Greens had.
Now I'm old and I am fine admitting that I lack. I'll probably never live up to those standards, but I'm okay with that.
@Remittancegirl when I say "people" I mostly mean people on the right. People who are absolutely bought into GDP as the prime measure of wellbeing.
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@rgarner No, I have always seen it. And cared. But I think one of the reasons I had not thought to join the Green Party before was because I really didn't think I could live up to the standards a lot of Greens had.
Now I'm old and I am fine admitting that I lack. I'll probably never live up to those standards, but I'm okay with that.
@rgarner There was a time when I really couldn't take having someone loosing their rag with me because I eat meat.
But now it doesn't bother me. They have their reasons for needing to purity test. It's not my problem.
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For the first time in my life, I have joined a political party other than Labour.
It hurts. And yet.
I am fairly convinced that Labour will not keep the hard right away from power. So that kind of freed me up, in a strange way.
I have become a member of the Green Party.
@Remittancegirl I certainly understand. Labour right now is becoming more and more of a farce.
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@Remittancegirl when I say "people" I mostly mean people on the right. People who are absolutely bought into GDP as the prime measure of wellbeing.
@rgarner Hey, that wasn't just people on the right. hahaha.
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@Remittancegirl I certainly understand. Labour right now is becoming more and more of a farce.
@Eetschrijver I don't thank my father for a lot - there isn't that much to thank him for. But one thing he always believed in was acting. Feelings are transitory. If you really care, then act.
I have always been pretty actively political and that is why.
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@rgarner There was a time when I really couldn't take having someone loosing their rag with me because I eat meat.
But now it doesn't bother me. They have their reasons for needing to purity test. It's not my problem.
@Remittancegirl absolutely. Purity tests are not the answer. Only "can you do slightly better than yesterday". Stopping drinking was "slightly better than yesterday" until it was just a new norm.
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@Remittancegirl absolutely. Purity tests are not the answer. Only "can you do slightly better than yesterday". Stopping drinking was "slightly better than yesterday" until it was just a new norm.
@Remittancegirl (yes, I still occasionally have something, but it's in the order of months apart now which is functionally not hugely different to teetotal)
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@Remittancegirl absolutely. Purity tests are not the answer. Only "can you do slightly better than yesterday". Stopping drinking was "slightly better than yesterday" until it was just a new norm.
@rgarner We're all at different places in our journeys. And for some, the journey of life just cannot end in Quorn. hahah.
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@rgarner We're all at different places in our journeys. And for some, the journey of life just cannot end in Quorn. hahah.
@Remittancegirl I mean Quorn gives me terrible stomach cramps, so no. But Linda McCartney's veggieburgers agree with me just fine.
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@Remittancegirl (yes, I still occasionally have something, but it's in the order of months apart now which is functionally not hugely different to teetotal)
@rgarner
That's a good way to think about it. Honestly, we must embrace those little pleasures in life, and the rarer they are, the more pleasure we get from them. But to be puritanical about it... meh, for me that lands somewhere between Kant and de Sade -
It's not that I put my faith in anyone who seeks political office anymore. I have grown to be extremely suspicious of anyone who seeks power in my old age.
Wanna know what changed my mind? That Green Party video, with Zack Polanski running.
It's not that I believe it. It's that I believe they actually know what people want to hear. That's a start.
@Remittancegirl Yep. That was extremely well made, say I as an erstwhile copywriter.
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@rgarner
That's a good way to think about it. Honestly, we must embrace those little pleasures in life, and the rarer they are, the more pleasure we get from them. But to be puritanical about it... meh, for me that lands somewhere between Kant and de Sade@Remittancegirl I *can* do disciplined (in a non de Sade kind of way), and most of the time I will, and feel better for it (with exercise particularly).
But yes, an occasional real pleasure, rather than constant low-level Bacchanalia.
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For the first time in my life, I have joined a political party other than Labour.
It hurts. And yet.
I am fairly convinced that Labour will not keep the hard right away from power. So that kind of freed me up, in a strange way.
I have become a member of the Green Party.
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It's not that I put my faith in anyone who seeks political office anymore. I have grown to be extremely suspicious of anyone who seeks power in my old age.
Wanna know what changed my mind? That Green Party video, with Zack Polanski running.
It's not that I believe it. It's that I believe they actually know what people want to hear. That's a start.
I think all the parties know what people want to hear.
I think the difference is the Greens aren't beholden to corporation donors -
@AspiringLuddite Thank you! Hahaha. Kind of you to let me in!
I'm pretty new here, myself
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@Eetschrijver I don't thank my father for a lot - there isn't that much to thank him for. But one thing he always believed in was acting. Feelings are transitory. If you really care, then act.
I have always been pretty actively political and that is why.
@Remittancegirl Well, that, at least, is good!
