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let's bring #longform (text) support to the #photoverse

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  • Matthias PfefferleP This user is from outside of this forum
    Matthias PfefferleP This user is from outside of this forum
    Matthias Pfefferle
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    let's bring #longform (text) support to the #photoverse

    (this is not (mainly) about long texts on #pixelfed or #vernissage (they can both fall back to show the summary), it is about supporting image posts with the object type: `Article`)

    * https://github.com/VernissageApp/VernissageServer/pull/442
    * https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed/pull/6458

    https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/b2b8/fep-b2b8.md

    #fediverse #activitypub

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    • Matthias PfefferleP Matthias Pfefferle

      let's bring #longform (text) support to the #photoverse

      (this is not (mainly) about long texts on #pixelfed or #vernissage (they can both fall back to show the summary), it is about supporting image posts with the object type: `Article`)

      * https://github.com/VernissageApp/VernissageServer/pull/442
      * https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed/pull/6458

      https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/b2b8/fep-b2b8.md

      #fediverse #activitypub

      dansupD This user is from outside of this forum
      dansupD This user is from outside of this forum
      dansup
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      @pfefferle Nope.

      https://mastodon.social/@dansup/116046631529839434

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      • Matthias PfefferleP Matthias Pfefferle

        let's bring #longform (text) support to the #photoverse

        (this is not (mainly) about long texts on #pixelfed or #vernissage (they can both fall back to show the summary), it is about supporting image posts with the object type: `Article`)

        * https://github.com/VernissageApp/VernissageServer/pull/442
        * https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed/pull/6458

        https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/b2b8/fep-b2b8.md

        #fediverse #activitypub

        ricferrerR This user is from outside of this forum
        ricferrerR This user is from outside of this forum
        ricferrer
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        @pfefferle i think pixelfed is the wrong client/platform if you want to read articles

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        • ricferrerR ricferrer

          @pfefferle i think pixelfed is the wrong client/platform if you want to read articles

          Matthias PfefferleP This user is from outside of this forum
          Matthias PfefferleP This user is from outside of this forum
          Matthias Pfefferle
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          @ricferrer as I said in my toot "(this is not (mainly) about long texts on #pixelfed or #vernissage (they can both fall back to show the summary), it is about supporting image posts with the object type: `Article`)"

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          • Matthias PfefferleP Matthias Pfefferle

            @ricferrer as I said in my toot "(this is not (mainly) about long texts on #pixelfed or #vernissage (they can both fall back to show the summary), it is about supporting image posts with the object type: `Article`)"

            ricferrerR This user is from outside of this forum
            ricferrerR This user is from outside of this forum
            ricferrer
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            @pfefferle thanks for clarifying. The image in the object article is secondary and I think it doesn’t make sense without the context of the article where it’s attached. I just don’t see the real value in seeing jt my feed. Specifically because sometimes the images for articles are a bit random, are stock photos or even graphics to try to depict the concept of the article.

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            • ricferrerR ricferrer

              @pfefferle thanks for clarifying. The image in the object article is secondary and I think it doesn’t make sense without the context of the article where it’s attached. I just don’t see the real value in seeing jt my feed. Specifically because sometimes the images for articles are a bit random, are stock photos or even graphics to try to depict the concept of the article.

              ricferrerR This user is from outside of this forum
              ricferrerR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @pfefferle it could be an opt-in setting.

              Here are some other opinions on the subject https://mastodon.social/@dansup/116046651398251538

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              • ricferrerR ricferrer

                @pfefferle thanks for clarifying. The image in the object article is secondary and I think it doesn’t make sense without the context of the article where it’s attached. I just don’t see the real value in seeing jt my feed. Specifically because sometimes the images for articles are a bit random, are stock photos or even graphics to try to depict the concept of the article.

                Matthias PfefferleP This user is from outside of this forum
                Matthias PfefferleP This user is from outside of this forum
                Matthias Pfefferle
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                @ricferrer but that is not the point of the discussion! this is already a problem, because if you change the post type to `Note`, pixelfed will show it, even with the full text.

                If spam or unrelevant images are the problem, than this can not (only) be fixed by blocking the `Article` type.

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                • ricferrerR ricferrer

                  @pfefferle thanks for clarifying. The image in the object article is secondary and I think it doesn’t make sense without the context of the article where it’s attached. I just don’t see the real value in seeing jt my feed. Specifically because sometimes the images for articles are a bit random, are stock photos or even graphics to try to depict the concept of the article.

                  dominik schwindD This user is from outside of this forum
                  dominik schwindD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @ricferrer @pfefferle contra point: I posted this article with a main photo https://lostfocus.de/2026/01/25/click/ - and it only shows up in Pixelfed because I do terrible things to my WordPress to still send `Note` objects instead of `Article` - it would be nice if the people who follow my blog on photo platforms can see my photos even when I stop messing with the post type

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                  • Matthias PfefferleP Matthias Pfefferle

                    let's bring #longform (text) support to the #photoverse

                    (this is not (mainly) about long texts on #pixelfed or #vernissage (they can both fall back to show the summary), it is about supporting image posts with the object type: `Article`)

                    * https://github.com/VernissageApp/VernissageServer/pull/442
                    * https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed/pull/6458

                    https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/b2b8/fep-b2b8.md

                    #fediverse #activitypub

                    Stage name Jay PeachJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    Stage name Jay PeachJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    Stage name Jay Peach
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                    @pfefferle@mastodon.social Boo, Pixelfed is for pictures, don’t fuck up a replacement for instagram with extraneous bullshit just because a rare user wants their own vision to screw things up for the real users, photographers and photographer’s aficionados.

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                    • Stage name Jay PeachJ Stage name Jay Peach

                      @pfefferle@mastodon.social Boo, Pixelfed is for pictures, don’t fuck up a replacement for instagram with extraneous bullshit just because a rare user wants their own vision to screw things up for the real users, photographers and photographer’s aficionados.

                      Matthias PfefferleP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Matthias Pfefferle
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                      @jaypeach53 thanks for your feedback!

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                      • ricferrerR ricferrer

                        @pfefferle i think pixelfed is the wrong client/platform if you want to read articles

                        Raphael LullisR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @ricferrer @pfefferle

                        The more we keep thinking in terms of "platforms", the longer it will take us to make the open social web a reality.

                        PixelFed-the-backend could well be a "Generic" ActivityPub Server, separate from "PixelFed the nice way to browse and organize image posts".

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                        • Matthias PfefferleP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @manton It works quite nice on most of the text based platforms, but as I learned with my toot: we have to improve the way how blogs can best interop with the #photoverse without beeing spammy or federate unrelated featured/stock images.

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                          • Stage name Jay PeachJ Stage name Jay Peach

                            @pfefferle@mastodon.social Boo, Pixelfed is for pictures, don’t fuck up a replacement for instagram with extraneous bullshit just because a rare user wants their own vision to screw things up for the real users, photographers and photographer’s aficionados.

                            Armin HanischL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @jaypeach53 @pfefferle Well, I have a lot of pictures (seen from others as well as mine) on Pixelfed where I would really like some text. Be it explanatory for some aspects of the shooting to more context. Currently you can put that in comments, but that is „clumsy“ I think is the right word. Just as with showing metadata for images.
                            Pixelfed is a fitting name, but sometimes you want more than just share „pixels“. 😎

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                            • mariusM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @manton isn't that a better fit for a text object with attachments?

                              @pfefferle

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                              • mariusM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @manton one way you could do this is by uploading the images, then adding the URLs as attachments, while at the same time they can be linked inline in the text content.

                                Of course this would be way too much to handle for Mastodon, but from an ActivityPub point of view it makes sense and doesn't require any hand wavy solutions.

                                In my one user ActivityPub web-app, I have all the moving parts I described above working, but they haven't come together just yet, because the UI for posting is just a CLI tool and it's difficult to describe in markdown an image that hasn't yet been uploaded with a stable URL. But writing this gave me an idea... 🤔

                                @pfefferle

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                                • mariusM marius

                                  @manton one way you could do this is by uploading the images, then adding the URLs as attachments, while at the same time they can be linked inline in the text content.

                                  Of course this would be way too much to handle for Mastodon, but from an ActivityPub point of view it makes sense and doesn't require any hand wavy solutions.

                                  In my one user ActivityPub web-app, I have all the moving parts I described above working, but they haven't come together just yet, because the UI for posting is just a CLI tool and it's difficult to describe in markdown an image that hasn't yet been uploaded with a stable URL. But writing this gave me an idea... 🤔

                                  @pfefferle

                                  mariusM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @manton here's an example: https://marius.federated.id/posts/2025/may/framework

                                  (But this was done in multiple steps, I have added the attached images in an edit, just now)

                                  @pfefferle

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                                  • mariusM marius

                                    @manton one way you could do this is by uploading the images, then adding the URLs as attachments, while at the same time they can be linked inline in the text content.

                                    Of course this would be way too much to handle for Mastodon, but from an ActivityPub point of view it makes sense and doesn't require any hand wavy solutions.

                                    In my one user ActivityPub web-app, I have all the moving parts I described above working, but they haven't come together just yet, because the UI for posting is just a CLI tool and it's difficult to describe in markdown an image that hasn't yet been uploaded with a stable URL. But writing this gave me an idea... 🤔

                                    @pfefferle

                                    Matthias PfefferleP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Matthias Pfefferle
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                                    @mariusor @manton that is what WordPress is already doing (keeping media inline and adding it as attachments).

                                    here is an example: https://browser.pub/https%3A%2F%2Factivitypub.blog%2F2026%2F01%2F12%2Fwordpress-federation-recap-of-2025%2F

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