My friend's brother became a monk a few years back and apparently the current monastery drama is that the hippie monks want all the food to be vegan but the gaybro monks demand more protein for the gainz.
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@noodlemaz @dan Recommendations for protein intake have gone up a lot in health-focused circles, to the point that it’s honestly challenging to get from a regular vegan diet especially if you don’t digest beans well. And pea protein powder is IMO less tasty than whey.
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My friend's brother became a monk a few years back and apparently the current monastery drama is that the hippie monks want all the food to be vegan but the gaybro monks demand more protein for the gainz.
I'm not sure what I expected monastic life to be like in the 2020s, but it wasn't that.
@dan this wasn't in Brother Cadfael!
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@noodlemaz @dan Recommendations for protein intake have gone up a lot in health-focused circles, to the point that it’s honestly challenging to get from a regular vegan diet especially if you don’t digest beans well. And pea protein powder is IMO less tasty than whey.
@thinkling @dan recommendations from whom, though*. 'Wellness influencers'. Doesn't make it actual good health advice! Most Americans get many times more daily protein than they need, for example.
Nobody needs meat every meal.
There are vegan bodybuilders and they don't scoff a bunch of animal products to get there obviously.*Ok I've seen this less sugar more protein BS from RFK, if that's what you mean. Just like his dangerous an unscientific vaccine rollback, this makes no sense.
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My friend's brother became a monk a few years back and apparently the current monastery drama is that the hippie monks want all the food to be vegan but the gaybro monks demand more protein for the gainz.
I'm not sure what I expected monastic life to be like in the 2020s, but it wasn't that.
@dan having been a monk that doesn't surprise me at all. We had very few brothers chasing gainz though.
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My friend's brother became a monk a few years back and apparently the current monastery drama is that the hippie monks want all the food to be vegan but the gaybro monks demand more protein for the gainz.
I'm not sure what I expected monastic life to be like in the 2020s, but it wasn't that.
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Vegetarian, including vegan, diets typically meet or exceed recommended protein intakes, when caloric intakes are adequate.
"[1]Melina V
2016
"Position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics: Vegetarian Diets"
US National Library of Medicine, pg 1970-1971
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My friend's brother became a monk a few years back and apparently the current monastery drama is that the hippie monks want all the food to be vegan but the gaybro monks demand more protein for the gainz.
I'm not sure what I expected monastic life to be like in the 2020s, but it wasn't that.
@dan not what I expected either, but this is great
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@dan am curious what monastic order now..
@Nikkileah @dan What religion is already a good question
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My friend's brother became a monk a few years back and apparently the current monastery drama is that the hippie monks want all the food to be vegan but the gaybro monks demand more protein for the gainz.
I'm not sure what I expected monastic life to be like in the 2020s, but it wasn't that.
@dan Meanwhile, the monks who love fart jokes are playing both sides against the bean-loving middle.
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@thinkling @dan recommendations from whom, though*. 'Wellness influencers'. Doesn't make it actual good health advice! Most Americans get many times more daily protein than they need, for example.
Nobody needs meat every meal.
There are vegan bodybuilders and they don't scoff a bunch of animal products to get there obviously.*Ok I've seen this less sugar more protein BS from RFK, if that's what you mean. Just like his dangerous an unscientific vaccine rollback, this makes no sense.
@noodlemaz @dan I’m mostly getting it from Peter Attia, who I would not describe as an influencer, not in the mold of people whose full time occupation is to be making content for IG/Tiktok. I would call him a practicing MD with a podcast and zeal for his treatment approach. His recommendation for higher intake assumes you’re (~)50+ and working on building and retaining muscle mass to aid long term stability. The reasoning is that when protein intake falls.. 1/
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@noodlemaz @dan I’m mostly getting it from Peter Attia, who I would not describe as an influencer, not in the mold of people whose full time occupation is to be making content for IG/Tiktok. I would call him a practicing MD with a podcast and zeal for his treatment approach. His recommendation for higher intake assumes you’re (~)50+ and working on building and retaining muscle mass to aid long term stability. The reasoning is that when protein intake falls.. 1/
@noodlemaz @dan short, the amino acids get taken out of your muscle mass instead, something you can’t afford at 50+ (more so 60+, 70+) because building muscle mass back gets harder and harder.
So yeah, many Americans (younger age, reasonable diet, probably less exercise than is optimal) don’t need that intake, but for many it may be better if you want to work harder on being closer to optimal health.
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@noodlemaz @dan short, the amino acids get taken out of your muscle mass instead, something you can’t afford at 50+ (more so 60+, 70+) because building muscle mass back gets harder and harder.
So yeah, many Americans (younger age, reasonable diet, probably less exercise than is optimal) don’t need that intake, but for many it may be better if you want to work harder on being closer to optimal health.
@thinkling @dan not really. It's a bit like supplement pushers. It's mostly just expensive excretions.
If you're a comfortable person with a reasonably varied diet, you do not need to obsess over how much protein you're getting. Especially if you're not an athlete or something.
Plenty of doctors and scientists out there making clickbait and using their credentials to get people behind their brand and/or products, unfortunately.
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@thinkling @dan not really. It's a bit like supplement pushers. It's mostly just expensive excretions.
If you're a comfortable person with a reasonably varied diet, you do not need to obsess over how much protein you're getting. Especially if you're not an athlete or something.
Plenty of doctors and scientists out there making clickbait and using their credentials to get people behind their brand and/or products, unfortunately.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-03632-1@noodlemaz @dan The RDA is a minimum and your own article recommends 1.2-1.6g/kg, 2x the RDA. Hello?
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@noodlemaz @dan The RDA is a minimum and your own article recommends 1.2-1.6g/kg, 2x the RDA. Hello?
@thinkling @dan hi, RDAs vary by country
Also I'm not sure you read it very closely? It reports that's what one researcher says, and there's a discussion about it, including them saying that builds in a buffer. So not a minimum.
