I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
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@ianRobinson yeah, the town we operate out of is a former military base and still one of the few long-runway airports in Greenland, so it’s an obvious place for military action to occur, heaven forbid…
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@ianRobinson yeah, the town we operate out of is a former military base and still one of the few long-runway airports in Greenland, so it’s an obvious place for military action to occur, heaven forbid…
@drmikepj Grim.
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
And yet, this was a possible scenario ever since Trump sought the presidential candidacy, long before he got elected.
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
@drmikepj being directly threatened by the risk of an ally invading another ally? Not so small beer in my book. Stay safe!
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And yet, this was a possible scenario ever since Trump sought the presidential candidacy, long before he got elected.
@proscience @drmikepj he has eyed Greenland for decades. I just posted this on my site - it is a realistic view not seen elsewhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDSzUfMZRHE
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
@drmikepj
Having assessed the risk, do you now have to outline your plans to mitigate it? That should be interesting. -
And yet, this was a possible scenario ever since Trump sought the presidential candidacy, long before he got elected.
TBH, I'm convinced he wouldn't be anywhere near it if not the Heritage Foundation fascists and the Silicon Valley fascists are actively pushing for it.
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Having assessed the risk, do you now have to outline your plans to mitigate it? That should be interesting.@pthane yes - basically we’ll cancel the fieldtrip if there’s a US military buildup before we leave the UK, and in any case we’ll make additional arrangements with the university and UK government science officials so people know where we are in case there’s a surprise
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
@drmikepj 55000 inhabitqnts give or take. One mil each = 55 bils. Add another few bils for destabilization and fake whatever. Chump change.
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
I would, and I’m not to sure about my convention in Vancouver in the summer…
It all sounds like a black mirror episode.
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
@drmikepj I am afraid of a world with just one big global power. But Trump is working hard to make sure China rises to that position.
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
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@drmikepj I am afraid of a world with just one big global power. But Trump is working hard to make sure China rises to that position.
I think that in this case, the opposite is true.
After ~ 30 years, they woke up to the fact that capitalist greed had created a monster.
What we are now witnessing are convulsions in the face of an existential threat! -
The real question is evaluating that risk given it's all at whim, could be good, could be bad, anyway which way the wind blows?
@trelord75 I don’t need to quantify the risk particularly, but I do need to think about what would prompt me to cancel the trip before departure, or bring everyone home mid-trip. In both cases a military buildup nearby would be a trigger to cancel the trip and go home.
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@trelord75 I don’t need to quantify the risk particularly, but I do need to think about what would prompt me to cancel the trip before departure, or bring everyone home mid-trip. In both cases a military buildup nearby would be a trigger to cancel the trip and go home.
True but given the proximity, how close is enough, what is the range of the assets required to do what they might want to do, be logical is a good starting point, preempt it, long range bombing you may not know, but why would they bomb what they might need, surgical strikes more likely, so watch military movements, ships leaving, where are they going, carriers with required shorter range assets to do the job.
That's what I'd be looking at, no surprises, eliminate the possibilities, or confirm it, and leave.
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True but given the proximity, how close is enough, what is the range of the assets required to do what they might want to do, be logical is a good starting point, preempt it, long range bombing you may not know, but why would they bomb what they might need, surgical strikes more likely, so watch military movements, ships leaving, where are they going, carriers with required shorter range assets to do the job.
That's what I'd be looking at, no surprises, eliminate the possibilities, or confirm it, and leave.
@trelord75 I know the typical US military air movements for a normal season (I’ve even flown on some of them, as military aircraft support science projects) and so any OSINT showing ships, helicopters, tanker aircraft or non-transport aircraft in the area will indicate something will happen.
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True but given the proximity, how close is enough, what is the range of the assets required to do what they might want to do, be logical is a good starting point, preempt it, long range bombing you may not know, but why would they bomb what they might need, surgical strikes more likely, so watch military movements, ships leaving, where are they going, carriers with required shorter range assets to do the job.
That's what I'd be looking at, no surprises, eliminate the possibilities, or confirm it, and leave.
Also worth noting, the other place is tropical, your destination is ice covered, they need established assets to gain any foothold, if they destroy them then they would have to build, already defeated themselves if they do that.
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Also worth noting, the other place is tropical, your destination is ice covered, they need established assets to gain any foothold, if they destroy them then they would have to build, already defeated themselves if they do that.
@trelord75 Greenland isn’t all ice-covered, and all the populated areas are just tundra. Seisure of strategic locations (airports) would be the obvious military objective. Greenland has no internal roads so everything travels by air or sea.
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I know this is pretty small beer in the light of world events, but I was not expecting to have to write “risk of invasion by the USA” into the risk assessment for my fieldwork in Greenland in June.
@drmikepj My kid just turned down an invitation from a British friend to join them for eclipse-viewing in Iceland this summer--because my kid is trans, and was afraid they wouldn't be let back into the US.
