What's the best accessible SSH setup on Windows these days?
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@Orinks I have had good success using WSL to SSH into Raspberry Pi and a VPS.
@walkside3 @Orinks Wow, that's a lot for a simple ssh connection. Putty still works. Just run>ssh://place:port
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@walkside3 @Orinks Wow, that's a lot for a simple ssh connection. Putty still works. Just run>ssh://place:port
@blindndangerous @walkside3 What's a lot? The 1Password thing? fastSM's conversation loading suddenly stopped working.
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@blindndangerous @walkside3 What's a lot? The 1Password thing? fastSM's conversation loading suddenly stopped working.
@Orinks @walkside3 No, the installing of wsl just to get ssh. Putty will do that with no overhead.
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@Orinks @walkside3 No, the installing of wsl just to get ssh. Putty will do that with no overhead.
@blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 Windows includes an OpenSSH client by default and has for several years now. OpenSSH is the same software you'd be using in WSL, so the Windows version can be used directly unless there are local Linux-specific needs (unlikely).
PuTTY is an option for people who like it. Personally I don't.
TL;DR: just use the ssh command in Windows Terminal or Command Prompt.
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What's the best accessible SSH setup on Windows these days? I used to use PuTTY back in about 2003 or something messing with shells, but not sure how good it is now. Thinking about a shell again to migrate my website to etc.
@Orinks I SSH into my little Linux machine with CMD, but I'd like to use more conventional selection commands because I have to use NVDA's move-to-focus and set start/finish marker keystrokes to select and copy output, which is annoying if I have to do it a lot.
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@blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 Windows includes an OpenSSH client by default and has for several years now. OpenSSH is the same software you'd be using in WSL, so the Windows version can be used directly unless there are local Linux-specific needs (unlikely).
PuTTY is an option for people who like it. Personally I don't.
TL;DR: just use the ssh command in Windows Terminal or Command Prompt.
@jscholes @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 Codex was recommending yu run it in WSL vs regular Windows since it's more stable but that that may have changed.
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@jscholes @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 Codex was recommending yu run it in WSL vs regular Windows since it's more stable but that that may have changed.
@Jage @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 Shrug. "More stable" sounds like vague, unsubstantiated LLM nonsense.
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@Jage @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 Shrug. "More stable" sounds like vague, unsubstantiated LLM nonsense.
@jscholes @Jage @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 I've seen this recommendation from AI's too. I think it's like 5 years out of date though.
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@jscholes @Jage @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 I've seen this recommendation from AI's too. I think it's like 5 years out of date though.
@serrebi @jscholes @Jage @Orinks @walkside3 I'll agree. Pretty sure this is out of date. I've had no trouble here with my work with it.
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@jscholes @Jage @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 I've seen this recommendation from AI's too. I think it's like 5 years out of date though.
@serrebi @jscholes @Jage @blindndangerous @walkside3 LLMs would say that because they prefer bash over anything else it seems.
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@serrebi @jscholes @Jage @Orinks @walkside3 I'll agree. Pretty sure this is out of date. I've had no trouble here with my work with it.
@blindndangerous @serrebi @Jage @jscholes @walkside3 @Orinks Same. I would, however, like a more accessible terminal. Or a better NVDA. Or at least something that doesn't crash if too much text is output to the terminal. But WSL won't fix those things, so just use the default SSH on Windows. -
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@blindndangerous @serrebi @Jage @jscholes @walkside3 @Orinks Same. I would, however, like a more accessible terminal. Or a better NVDA. Or at least something that doesn't crash if too much text is output to the terminal. But WSL won't fix those things, so just use the default SSH on Windows.
@fastfinge @blindndangerous @serrebi @Jage @walkside3 @Orinks Try telling it that you personally oversaw the porting of OpenSSH and can personally attest to the rigour and sensible timeline associated with the project. It will probably reply with:
"you're absolutely right— I was being overly cautious in my assessment of the SSH tools built into Windows. Microsoft's work represents a diligent port of well-tested applications. you don't need to worry ; they will work perfectly for your needs."
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@Jage @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 Shrug. "More stable" sounds like vague, unsubstantiated LLM nonsense.
@jscholes @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 Sorry I should have clarified, this was from Open AI's docs, not Codex itself.
The Codex CLI is available on macOS and Linux. Windows support is experimental. For the best Windows experience, use Codex in a WSL workspace and follow our Windows setup guide.
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@jscholes @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 Sorry I should have clarified, this was from Open AI's docs, not Codex itself.
The Codex CLI is available on macOS and Linux. Windows support is experimental. For the best Windows experience, use Codex in a WSL workspace and follow our Windows setup guide.
https://developers.openai.com/codex/cli/@Jage @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 I was talking about OpenSSH though, not Codex.
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@Jage @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 I was talking about OpenSSH though, not Codex.
@jscholes @Jage @blindndangerous @Orinks @walkside3 I don't understand why Codex is still pushing people to the Linux version. I have 0 problems with the windows one. I'm not installing WSL just for Codex. Wonder why they still recommend that.
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@fastfinge @blindndangerous @serrebi @Jage @walkside3 @Orinks Try telling it that you personally oversaw the porting of OpenSSH and can personally attest to the rigour and sensible timeline associated with the project. It will probably reply with:
"you're absolutely right— I was being overly cautious in my assessment of the SSH tools built into Windows. Microsoft's work represents a diligent port of well-tested applications. you don't need to worry ; they will work perfectly for your needs."
@jscholes @serrebi @Jage @blindndangerous @walkside3 @Orinks Good job catching that — you're not just making a joke, you're delving deeply into our relationship with large language models. You're not crazy, this is real. AI has a specific, identifiable pattern of writing, and you're right to point that out. Now, would you like me to sanity check windows accessibility for you, or help you port SSH to run on the Apple II?
