I don't want AI in my electronic medical record to try to summarize other clinicians' notes, or to listen in on my conversations with my patients to try to write my notes for me.
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I don't want AI in my electronic medical record to try to summarize other clinicians' notes, or to listen in on my conversations with my patients to try to write my notes for me.
On days like this, with a big storm bearing down, I just want a plain old database to show me which of my patients will need their prescriptions refilled within the next 5 days, so that I can refill them now and patients can pick them up before the storm comes.
Guess which I don't have?
Helpdesker in Healthcare feels your pain on this! The daily issues with scanners, printers, emr account rights/passwords, and then tossing in 'my dictations on this encounter are wrong again cause Dax is broken again, I need an unlock'
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@jeneralist
Yeah but the AI can find more codes to bill!
(I am convinced any AI marketed to doctors offices will not be intended for the patient's benefit, probably not even the doctor's)We have Thoughtful AI up in our Rev Cycle, nobody can explain what its doing and we keep hiring Rev Cyclers anyway
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We have Thoughtful AI up in our Rev Cycle, nobody can explain what its doing and we keep hiring Rev Cyclers anyway
The legit best AI implimentation isnt even Healthcare in the enterpise, its the transcription LLM in Dialpad that handles all call center and phone functions. Its wild how thats barely appreciated because its trench tools for those in the trenches
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I don't want AI in my electronic medical record to try to summarize other clinicians' notes, or to listen in on my conversations with my patients to try to write my notes for me.
On days like this, with a big storm bearing down, I just want a plain old database to show me which of my patients will need their prescriptions refilled within the next 5 days, so that I can refill them now and patients can pick them up before the storm comes.
Guess which I don't have?
@jeneralist Could not BELIEVE I had to argue with the intern in the ER. No, dude, you cannot use an AI assistant during our interview. "It just summarizes," he tried to say but I interrupted him. "It violates my HIPA rights, is what it does." He put his fucking phone away. But am I going to trust him as a doctor now, ever? Not even a little bit.
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I don't want AI in my electronic medical record to try to summarize other clinicians' notes, or to listen in on my conversations with my patients to try to write my notes for me.
On days like this, with a big storm bearing down, I just want a plain old database to show me which of my patients will need their prescriptions refilled within the next 5 days, so that I can refill them now and patients can pick them up before the storm comes.
Guess which I don't have?
@jeneralist the computer of 2013 would be great at that kind of report, but as of 2023 apparently the only way to use computers is to supplicate in english to make a slopbot produce something resembling useful output, and we're all expected to believe this is better. drives us up the wall!
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I don't want AI in my electronic medical record to try to summarize other clinicians' notes, or to listen in on my conversations with my patients to try to write my notes for me.
On days like this, with a big storm bearing down, I just want a plain old database to show me which of my patients will need their prescriptions refilled within the next 5 days, so that I can refill them now and patients can pick them up before the storm comes.
Guess which I don't have?
@jeneralist I am always baffled when companies, cities, states or organizations announce that they are deploying "ai". They have not put in the money and effort to deploy 30 year old database technologies. Now they want to spend real big money to deploy an error prone black box that produces unpredictable outputs?
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I don't want AI in my electronic medical record to try to summarize other clinicians' notes, or to listen in on my conversations with my patients to try to write my notes for me.
On days like this, with a big storm bearing down, I just want a plain old database to show me which of my patients will need their prescriptions refilled within the next 5 days, so that I can refill them now and patients can pick them up before the storm comes.
Guess which I don't have?
@jeneralist I’m a “retired” hospital IT person who now works in infusion pharmacy (cushy pre-retirement job), I’ve had some words with my caregivers about their AI notes. My boss has asked me to not share my thoughts with my employer because she wants me to stay employed under her.
That slop needs to go.
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I don't want AI in my electronic medical record to try to summarize other clinicians' notes, or to listen in on my conversations with my patients to try to write my notes for me.
On days like this, with a big storm bearing down, I just want a plain old database to show me which of my patients will need their prescriptions refilled within the next 5 days, so that I can refill them now and patients can pick them up before the storm comes.
Guess which I don't have?
My new health insurance had their "AI" bot (complete with a fake people name) try to contact me 4 times today. Once immediately after I ignored the first call, and then later inappropriately at night...
Yet another corporate waste of money that should be going to patient care...
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I don't want AI in my electronic medical record to try to summarize other clinicians' notes, or to listen in on my conversations with my patients to try to write my notes for me.
On days like this, with a big storm bearing down, I just want a plain old database to show me which of my patients will need their prescriptions refilled within the next 5 days, so that I can refill them now and patients can pick them up before the storm comes.
Guess which I don't have?
@jeneralist I went to get a mole checked out today since it has a fuzzy border and feels a little rough and I haven't noticed it before. So the PA pulls out a derma scan standalone device. An image recognition device that tries to interpret an image and provide a likely diagnosis. I glance over as they're trying to get it to work and it's "out of credits" so it stopped working. So they call in the physician who looks at the mole for a few seconds and is like "nah, that's fine".
I probably dodged a very billable test
. I don't really think that machine learning has a place in medicine (or any other field of human creativity and knowledge) -
@jeneralist I went to get a mole checked out today since it has a fuzzy border and feels a little rough and I haven't noticed it before. So the PA pulls out a derma scan standalone device. An image recognition device that tries to interpret an image and provide a likely diagnosis. I glance over as they're trying to get it to work and it's "out of credits" so it stopped working. So they call in the physician who looks at the mole for a few seconds and is like "nah, that's fine".
I probably dodged a very billable test
. I don't really think that machine learning has a place in medicine (or any other field of human creativity and knowledge)@Affekt Maybe because I've done a few neural network style machine learning projects, I try not to lump everything in the same bucket with large language models.
But I'll certainly agree you probably saved yourself a few bucks on that one!
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@Affekt Maybe because I've done a few neural network style machine learning projects, I try not to lump everything in the same bucket with large language models.
But I'll certainly agree you probably saved yourself a few bucks on that one!
@jeneralist likewise, my day job is unfortunately tightly coupled to various flavors of machine learning. While there are very good use cases, I've soured on the whole thing since it's become marketing jargon. I try to be careful with the language I choose since there is more nuance than just "AI bad"
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I don't want AI in my electronic medical record to try to summarize other clinicians' notes, or to listen in on my conversations with my patients to try to write my notes for me.
On days like this, with a big storm bearing down, I just want a plain old database to show me which of my patients will need their prescriptions refilled within the next 5 days, so that I can refill them now and patients can pick them up before the storm comes.
Guess which I don't have?
@jeneralist you want something they need to hire actual devs to develop.
It is expensive and that makes them less rich and thus sad. -
I don't want AI in my electronic medical record to try to summarize other clinicians' notes, or to listen in on my conversations with my patients to try to write my notes for me.
On days like this, with a big storm bearing down, I just want a plain old database to show me which of my patients will need their prescriptions refilled within the next 5 days, so that I can refill them now and patients can pick them up before the storm comes.
Guess which I don't have?
@jeneralist I am shocked how easy people who have no understanding about safety of medical records tout "LLM will help you" ideas in medicine.
Medicine is about precision. Parotting is no go in such industry. -
I don't want AI in my electronic medical record to try to summarize other clinicians' notes, or to listen in on my conversations with my patients to try to write my notes for me.
On days like this, with a big storm bearing down, I just want a plain old database to show me which of my patients will need their prescriptions refilled within the next 5 days, so that I can refill them now and patients can pick them up before the storm comes.
Guess which I don't have?
@jeneralist Psychologist here. Same frustation.
I have the priviledge of working in private practice, so I choose not to use AI. Even, I don't use private software ( free software for almost everything), an I use my own cloud.
But I see how others psychologist fall in the scam of the snake oil.
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