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  • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

    Two things:
    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

    Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A This user is from outside of this forum
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    Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›
    wrote last edited by
    #3

    You can see how this is leading down a very dark path, right? You don’t have to be a science fiction author to be able to extrapolate from here.

    Annika BackstromA 1 Reply Last reply
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    • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

      Two things:
      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

      Al SweigartA This user is from outside of this forum
      Al SweigartA This user is from outside of this forum
      Al Sweigart
      wrote last edited by
      #4

      @Ashedryden I live in New York and decided to go without my phone. I was a few feet from my front door when I realized I couldn't get the bike share bike without the app. I signed up to get the keycard. After it arrived, I found it doesn't work on any bike stations.

      I thought about how to navigate the world without a phone number. The only people who do that are either very wealthy, or homeless.

      Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A RastalR 2 Replies Last reply
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      • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

        Two things:
        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

        Miah JohnsonM This user is from outside of this forum
        Miah JohnsonM This user is from outside of this forum
        Miah Johnson
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        #5

        @Ashedryden Guess its time to spin up a mumble service!

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        • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

          @Ashedryden I live in New York and decided to go without my phone. I was a few feet from my front door when I realized I couldn't get the bike share bike without the app. I signed up to get the keycard. After it arrived, I found it doesn't work on any bike stations.

          I thought about how to navigate the world without a phone number. The only people who do that are either very wealthy, or homeless.

          Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A This user is from outside of this forum
          Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A This user is from outside of this forum
          Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›
          wrote last edited by
          #6

          @AlSweigart I went to a protest without a phone and realized I couldn’t easily find out when buses come or pay for the fare because everything is so cash averse now

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          • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

            You can see how this is leading down a very dark path, right? You don’t have to be a science fiction author to be able to extrapolate from here.

            Annika BackstromA This user is from outside of this forum
            Annika BackstromA This user is from outside of this forum
            Annika Backstrom
            wrote last edited by
            #7

            @Ashedryden TIL there was already an update to the "nobody knows you're a dog" cartoon. 11 years since the revision and it's still getting worse https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/irl-on-the-internet-no-one-knows-youre-doggo/

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            • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

              Two things:
              1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

              2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

              Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
              Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
              Koen Hufkens, PhD
              wrote last edited by
              #8

              @Ashedryden Couldn't this be trivially bypassed using a deepfake setup (making the whole thing null and void)?

              Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A 1 Reply Last reply
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              • Koen Hufkens, PhDK Koen Hufkens, PhD

                @Ashedryden Couldn't this be trivially bypassed using a deepfake setup (making the whole thing null and void)?

                Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A This user is from outside of this forum
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                Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›
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                #9

                @koen_hufkens depends on what they’re doing for verification

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                • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                  @koen_hufkens depends on what they’re doing for verification

                  Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Koen Hufkens, PhD
                  wrote last edited by
                  #10

                  @Ashedryden We will see soon enough.

                  https://gamerant.com/death-stranding-photo-mode-bypass-age-verification/

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                  • Koen Hufkens, PhDK Koen Hufkens, PhD

                    @Ashedryden We will see soon enough.

                    https://gamerant.com/death-stranding-photo-mode-bypass-age-verification/

                    Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Koen Hufkens, PhD
                    wrote last edited by
                    #11

                    @Ashedryden Someone should make a biometric randomization app already, which takes your likeness and then change the core face metrics randomly.

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                    • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                      Two things:
                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                      The TenuousOrder :NDpride:T This user is from outside of this forum
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                      The TenuousOrder :NDpride:
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                      #12

                      @Ashedryden dammit.

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                      • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                        Two things:
                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                        John MaxwellJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        John MaxwellJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        John Maxwell
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                        #13

                        @Ashedryden Also, we're giving the kids a reason to investigate decentralized services.

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                        • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                          Two things:
                          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                          GourdG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Gourd
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                          #14

                          @Ashedryden it's not like they had an age verification information breach announced uh, three months ago or anything </sarcasm>

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                          • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                            Two things:
                            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                            Flash Mob Of OneF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Flash Mob Of One
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                            #15

                            @Ashedryden I don't know that I agree.

                            Your information is already in all of these systems, especially if you're walking around with a tracking device in your pocket via your phone. The ID verification is just a legal formality only an adult can fulfill.

                            Secondly, given the excessive damage so much of the corporate Internet is doing to our species' collective cognitive ability, I think regulation is becoming essential, as we are incapable of self-regulating even in the knowledge of the harm.

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                            • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                              Two things:
                              1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                              2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                              NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                              NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                              Netraven
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                              #16

                              @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

                              Chinga la migra!  πŸ‰πŸŒˆF Owl EyesD 2 Replies Last reply
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                              • NetravenN Netraven

                                @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

                                Chinga la migra!  πŸ‰πŸŒˆF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Chinga la migra! πŸ‰πŸŒˆ
                                wrote last edited by
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                                @Netraven @Ashedryden some of us saw this happening 20 years ago but everyone called us dorks and conspiracy theorists.

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                                • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                  Two things:
                                  1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                  2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                  midnight postingT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  midnight posting
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                                  #18

                                  @Ashedryden It'll be unsustainable too. The tier that requires ID will see a precipitous drop in access and traffic, by design.

                                  I would speculate that whoever's pushing these rules knows that the majority of people won't give up their IDs to these random services, either through apathy ("I don't have time for this") or because it's a bad idea. Only massive platforms like Youtube will get people to jump through those hoops for access.

                                  Painting everything the same shade of beige is the point.

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                                  • Chinga la migra!  πŸ‰πŸŒˆF Chinga la migra! πŸ‰πŸŒˆ

                                    @Netraven @Ashedryden some of us saw this happening 20 years ago but everyone called us dorks and conspiracy theorists.

                                    NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Netraven
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #19

                                    @fiend_unpleasant @Ashedryden

                                    It's almost high time to take back IRC. All the epstein-owned 4channers and lowlife trolls are almost all dead or moved on to psych wards or careers in politics.

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                                    • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                      Two things:
                                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                      Phantasus πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Phantasus πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #20

                                      @Ashedryden This is already the case of being excluded from the web. If you "choose" to hang around only on non-bigtech sites, then you are already excluded. If you have some principles then you are already excluded.

                                      This is just another straw on the camels back.

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                                      • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                        Two things:
                                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                        decapitaeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        decapitae
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                                        #21

                                        @Ashedryden Goodbye discord.

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                                        • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                          Two things:
                                          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                          BeauM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          BeauM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Beau
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #22

                                          @Ashedryden teamspeak is great for voice, but someone NEEDS to make a better alternative for chatting. i haven't found a platform that works nearly as well as discord, and it sucks.

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