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"I don't want to roast him, but he could not be roasted more than he's roasted himself"

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    "I don't want to roast him, but he could not be roasted more than he's roasted himself"

    Academic publicly admits to be LLM-dependent and gives "helpful" warning assuming "everyone is doing it"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pqF90rstZQ

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    @futurebird I don't tend to like her videos very much (no critique, just personal taste) but this one is an instant classic.

    Incredible levels of academic own-goal

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      "I don't want to roast him, but he could not be roasted more than he's roasted himself"

      Academic publicly admits to be LLM-dependent and gives "helpful" warning assuming "everyone is doing it"

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pqF90rstZQ

      PeterS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @futurebird Angela's so good

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        "I don't want to roast him, but he could not be roasted more than he's roasted himself"

        Academic publicly admits to be LLM-dependent and gives "helpful" warning assuming "everyone is doing it"

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pqF90rstZQ

        cognitively accessible mathG This user is from outside of this forum
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        cognitively accessible math
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        @futurebird OK I watched a little and skipped a little to where she seemed to be saying that yea, not wanting to spend a mess of time watching this was a critique of this kind of video...
        Reminds me of meetings that could have been an email...

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          "I don't want to roast him, but he could not be roasted more than he's roasted himself"

          Academic publicly admits to be LLM-dependent and gives "helpful" warning assuming "everyone is doing it"

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pqF90rstZQ

          FediThing :progress_pride:F This user is from outside of this forum
          FediThing :progress_pride:F This user is from outside of this forum
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          @futurebird

          Can only hope he is an outlier 😬

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            "I don't want to roast him, but he could not be roasted more than he's roasted himself"

            Academic publicly admits to be LLM-dependent and gives "helpful" warning assuming "everyone is doing it"

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pqF90rstZQ

            Tofu GolemT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @futurebird
            I use Wikipedia as a source because its information is about as reliable as an encyclopedia.

            Academics rejected Wikipedia as a source because its information is about as reliable as an encyclopedia (please correct me if I am wrong).

            So academic use of LLM highly ironic. Surely, they understand that LLMs are NOT expertise systems, and that the LLM has no actual understanding of the words it is using.

            Heck, the software picking the 10th word has no idea why the 6th word was picked.

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            • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

              @futurebird

              Can only hope he is an outlier 😬

              Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:O This user is from outside of this forum
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              @FediThing @futurebird I'm angry about him using it and the implications of using it for writing grant applications.

              We've already had enough nonsense with AI review in the EIS process when it was being used for a while as first pass for Horizon Funding just under 5 years ago.

              I knew at some point someone would use LLMs to write grant applications.

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                "I don't want to roast him, but he could not be roasted more than he's roasted himself"

                Academic publicly admits to be LLM-dependent and gives "helpful" warning assuming "everyone is doing it"

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pqF90rstZQ

                VergeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @futurebird lol get his ass angela

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                • Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:O Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

                  @FediThing @futurebird I'm angry about him using it and the implications of using it for writing grant applications.

                  We've already had enough nonsense with AI review in the EIS process when it was being used for a while as first pass for Horizon Funding just under 5 years ago.

                  I knew at some point someone would use LLMs to write grant applications.

                  FediThing :progress_pride:F This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @onepict @futurebird

                  Apart from anything else, the LLM makers could subtly control who gets grants or funding, or subtly change the nature of any other decision made by LLM.

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    "I don't want to roast him, but he could not be roasted more than he's roasted himself"

                    Academic publicly admits to be LLM-dependent and gives "helpful" warning assuming "everyone is doing it"

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pqF90rstZQ

                    legraLeGraA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @futurebird @jf_718

                    #ai #science

                    I’m a new associate editor of Wiley earth science journals.

                    This last December at the annual AGU meeting, I learned that the authors own self-reported use of ai/ml in any stage of production of work is 80%.

                    It’s shocking to me.

                    I asked folks how the can use it. I explain that I tried it for coding, and llms will write code that claims there are 360 degrees of longitude and latitude with full confidence.

                    We don’t need new works publishing summaries of old works. With any possibility of hallucinations. AI can produce those faster that human fact checkers can filter them out.

                    New works should focus on what is novel. They should only include the bits not replaceable by AI.

                    We don’t need AI to keep spinning obfuscating, time wasting wheels.

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      "I don't want to roast him, but he could not be roasted more than he's roasted himself"

                      Academic publicly admits to be LLM-dependent and gives "helpful" warning assuming "everyone is doing it"

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pqF90rstZQ

                      ⁂ L. RhodesL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @futurebird I know that she and you and I see the morals of the story as "don't hit the delete button" and "don't outsource your work to AI," but I have a sneaking suspicion the intended moral was "never revoke data consent."

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