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I can really see why developers like Claude and that Open-Claude thing has taken off honestly.

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    I can really see why developers like Claude and that Open-Claude thing has taken off honestly. Compared to GPT's container, Claude can pull down packages, so for phoneme tuning, I can actually get Ukrainian IPA from Espeak inside it and give it guidance on what and how to tune where. Honestly, Claude's Max plan is more of a value worth than GPT's Pro plan is, and it is half the cost, so starting next month I'll save a lot by not paying for that anymore. It was just ouch for a month where I had to try the high-teared plans on each. Gemini still sucks for not letting you download patched files in browser. I don't know why Google's lagging behind on this one, yes, it can modify your code through Gemini CLI but if you drop it a file in-browser it has to rewrite the entire thing from scratch if you ask to insert a function or whatever. Nope. Also with Claude / GPT you can paste in the block you made in your IDE and say, "here's the diff, the new file, this is what we're working on."
    Open AI, if you re-upload the file with the same filename, it does not override to the newest version, so you end up with something-revised-23.cpp because you have to keep incrementing the version count for each new revision you or it made. Claude can grab the latest copy from /uploads in its container and you then can stay with a clean file, but then might lose revisions that worked earlier, so I guess both can work, but the more and more I use them side by side, Claude does win.

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      I can really see why developers like Claude and that Open-Claude thing has taken off honestly. Compared to GPT's container, Claude can pull down packages, so for phoneme tuning, I can actually get Ukrainian IPA from Espeak inside it and give it guidance on what and how to tune where. Honestly, Claude's Max plan is more of a value worth than GPT's Pro plan is, and it is half the cost, so starting next month I'll save a lot by not paying for that anymore. It was just ouch for a month where I had to try the high-teared plans on each. Gemini still sucks for not letting you download patched files in browser. I don't know why Google's lagging behind on this one, yes, it can modify your code through Gemini CLI but if you drop it a file in-browser it has to rewrite the entire thing from scratch if you ask to insert a function or whatever. Nope. Also with Claude / GPT you can paste in the block you made in your IDE and say, "here's the diff, the new file, this is what we're working on."
      Open AI, if you re-upload the file with the same filename, it does not override to the newest version, so you end up with something-revised-23.cpp because you have to keep incrementing the version count for each new revision you or it made. Claude can grab the latest copy from /uploads in its container and you then can stay with a clean file, but then might lose revisions that worked earlier, so I guess both can work, but the more and more I use them side by side, Claude does win.

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      @Tamasg For code — no doubts. I'm paying for #Claude max and I'm super satisfied with it. Now playing with this spec-kit thing: https://github.com/github/spec-kit.

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        I can really see why developers like Claude and that Open-Claude thing has taken off honestly. Compared to GPT's container, Claude can pull down packages, so for phoneme tuning, I can actually get Ukrainian IPA from Espeak inside it and give it guidance on what and how to tune where. Honestly, Claude's Max plan is more of a value worth than GPT's Pro plan is, and it is half the cost, so starting next month I'll save a lot by not paying for that anymore. It was just ouch for a month where I had to try the high-teared plans on each. Gemini still sucks for not letting you download patched files in browser. I don't know why Google's lagging behind on this one, yes, it can modify your code through Gemini CLI but if you drop it a file in-browser it has to rewrite the entire thing from scratch if you ask to insert a function or whatever. Nope. Also with Claude / GPT you can paste in the block you made in your IDE and say, "here's the diff, the new file, this is what we're working on."
        Open AI, if you re-upload the file with the same filename, it does not override to the newest version, so you end up with something-revised-23.cpp because you have to keep incrementing the version count for each new revision you or it made. Claude can grab the latest copy from /uploads in its container and you then can stay with a clean file, but then might lose revisions that worked earlier, so I guess both can work, but the more and more I use them side by side, Claude does win.

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        @Tamasg Would you say Claude Max is better/cheaper than just using the API using API credits and an API key?

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          I can really see why developers like Claude and that Open-Claude thing has taken off honestly. Compared to GPT's container, Claude can pull down packages, so for phoneme tuning, I can actually get Ukrainian IPA from Espeak inside it and give it guidance on what and how to tune where. Honestly, Claude's Max plan is more of a value worth than GPT's Pro plan is, and it is half the cost, so starting next month I'll save a lot by not paying for that anymore. It was just ouch for a month where I had to try the high-teared plans on each. Gemini still sucks for not letting you download patched files in browser. I don't know why Google's lagging behind on this one, yes, it can modify your code through Gemini CLI but if you drop it a file in-browser it has to rewrite the entire thing from scratch if you ask to insert a function or whatever. Nope. Also with Claude / GPT you can paste in the block you made in your IDE and say, "here's the diff, the new file, this is what we're working on."
          Open AI, if you re-upload the file with the same filename, it does not override to the newest version, so you end up with something-revised-23.cpp because you have to keep incrementing the version count for each new revision you or it made. Claude can grab the latest copy from /uploads in its container and you then can stay with a clean file, but then might lose revisions that worked earlier, so I guess both can work, but the more and more I use them side by side, Claude does win.

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          also, I have never, ever seen Claude think for 58 to 80 minutes. That is just nuts. I do like that GPT thinks through more carefully and methodically (chunk by chunk) on a problem, Claude is a bit like the impulsive kid who can spit out a bunch of code at once, never even check its code thoroughly (sure, it'll check, "Will it compile?" but we engineers know there's more to code than that), and it can easily blow up your file. OpenAI doesn't. So I'm not saying Claude is all shining stars and shimmering butterflies. But here's how I see it.
          If you're new to coding, don't know a lot of programming fundementals, the more expensive Open AI pro plan pays off. You spend less time debugging because GPT took 65 minutes to think through and carefully reflect on its work, almost like, in deep meditation.
          But if you're a seasoned programmer who's familiar with concepts, logic, how to write debuggable code that's modular and you know the languages its coding, Claude will absolutely not set you back for costing half the price and being "too nimble." If you know how and what to do, it might actually make you more productive.

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            @Tamasg Would you say Claude Max is better/cheaper than just using the API using API credits and an API key?

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            @zersiax @Tamasg Sorry to jump in, but I'd say it's far, far cheaper.

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