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  3. Tried to extract my own glottal pulse to make the synth sound more human.

Tried to extract my own glottal pulse to make the synth sound more human.

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    @Tamasg @BorrisInABox lmfaoooooo what, that's like the odd source of softvoice

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    Tamas G
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    @x0 @BorrisInABox lol this thing is a trip to use. It's, just... So gritty, so metallic, nothin' quite like it. So I'm keeping it at https://eurpod.com/synths/speechPlayer-brokenmachine.dll - though clear proof that with the right matching glottal source it can sound less tubey and more natural, just gotta find the right radio announcer-type glottal source 😄

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      @BorrisInABox Oh cool! For the extraction I recorded 5 sounds:
      "ahh" sustained at normal pitch (~5 sec)
      2. "ahh" sustained at low pitch (~5 sec)
      3. "ahh" sustained at high pitch (~5 sec)
      4. "shhh" sustained fricative (~5 sec)
      5. "th" sustained unvoiced (~3 sec)
      The "ahh" vowels are for glottal pulse extraction at different F0s. The "sh" and "th" are for noise/frication characteristics.
      Recording tips:
      • Condenser or dynamic mic (I used a Blue Snowball, AT2005 was too noisy)
      • Peaks around -5 to -8 dB (NOT quiet - my first attempt at -30 dB was useless)
      • Steady volume, no vibrato
      • Quiet room
      • 44100 Hz, mono
      The key is getting a clean, loud, boring sustained vowel - no expression, just pure steady tone. The more monotone the better for extraction!

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      Tamas G
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      @BorrisInABox Small add-on for the voice recording set: raw audio only, please — no noise suppression, auto gain, compressor/limiter, or EQ. The boring part matters here: keep the vowel steady with no vibrato, because I’m aligning and averaging glottal cycles and pitch wobble makes the final source less crisp. If you can, include ~10 seconds of room tone (silence) in a file, so I can calibrate noise and hum. And when you record “th”, make it the “think” version (/θ/). Optional but very helpful: a sustained “zzzz” (/z/) and “vvvv” (/v/) so I can capture voicing + turbulence together for better “edge” control later. Hope this helps too. LOL if this works out your voice would be forever partially captured into a synth. LOL.

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        @BorrisInABox Small add-on for the voice recording set: raw audio only, please — no noise suppression, auto gain, compressor/limiter, or EQ. The boring part matters here: keep the vowel steady with no vibrato, because I’m aligning and averaging glottal cycles and pitch wobble makes the final source less crisp. If you can, include ~10 seconds of room tone (silence) in a file, so I can calibrate noise and hum. And when you record “th”, make it the “think” version (/θ/). Optional but very helpful: a sustained “zzzz” (/z/) and “vvvv” (/v/) so I can capture voicing + turbulence together for better “edge” control later. Hope this helps too. LOL if this works out your voice would be forever partially captured into a synth. LOL.

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        Martin
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        @Tamasg @BorrisInABox Ooo, a Boris voice synth coming soon!

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          @Tamasg @BorrisInABox Ooo, a Boris voice synth coming soon!

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          @mcourcel @Tamasg It's fake news.

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            @BorrisInABox @Tamasg This is the raw source material, which I later trimmed and did some noise reduction on, and then A.Liv carefully turned it into something that was a consistent period to be turned into wavetables, I think at 2048 samples per frame.

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            Scott
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            @x0 LMAO you've got a dubstep washer! @BorrisInABox @Tamasg

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              @x0 LMAO you've got a dubstep washer! @BorrisInABox @Tamasg

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              @Scott @BorrisInABox @Tamasg Yup, as soon as I heard that I thought of some Skrillex shit and had to get it put into a synth. It was recorded in 2019, and in 2022 it finally happened. This is the demo that A.Liv made with it, everything except the supersaw and drums are the resulting tables.

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                @Scott @BorrisInABox @Tamasg Yup, as soon as I heard that I thought of some Skrillex shit and had to get it put into a synth. It was recorded in 2019, and in 2022 it finally happened. This is the demo that A.Liv made with it, everything except the supersaw and drums are the resulting tables.

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                Tamas G
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                @x0 @Scott @BorrisInABox ah no way that's really cool! You can totally hear the samples in there 😄

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                  @x0 @Scott @BorrisInABox ah no way that's really cool! You can totally hear the samples in there 😄

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                  @Tamasg @Scott @BorrisInABox Now feed that into a vocoder and have this gigantic radio voice going "search and destroy" and then a killer dubstep drop, it would be perfect.

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                    @BorrisInABox Small add-on for the voice recording set: raw audio only, please — no noise suppression, auto gain, compressor/limiter, or EQ. The boring part matters here: keep the vowel steady with no vibrato, because I’m aligning and averaging glottal cycles and pitch wobble makes the final source less crisp. If you can, include ~10 seconds of room tone (silence) in a file, so I can calibrate noise and hum. And when you record “th”, make it the “think” version (/θ/). Optional but very helpful: a sustained “zzzz” (/z/) and “vvvv” (/v/) so I can capture voicing + turbulence together for better “edge” control later. Hope this helps too. LOL if this works out your voice would be forever partially captured into a synth. LOL.

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                    @Tamasg Have a thing.
                    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/06xusmq45tjvddimav861/glottles.wav?rlkey=opxqxp3ruhb80qdgwva5eoyzl&dl=1

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                      @Tamasg Have a thing.
                      https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/06xusmq45tjvddimav861/glottles.wav?rlkey=opxqxp3ruhb80qdgwva5eoyzl&dl=1

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                      Tamas G
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                      @BorrisInABox Excellent! These are CLEAN recordings! Look at those noise floors! down to -55.9 dB on ah_normal.wav! And the F0 stability is fantastic (±1.5 Hz on the normal pitch).
                      Key observations:
                      Recording
                      F0
                      Notes
                      ah_normal.wav
                      119.4 Hz (±1.5)
                      Best candidate - great level, super stable, lowest noise floor
                      ah_normal_take2.wav
                      115.7 Hz (±1.5)
                      Also excellent, slightly higher noise floor
                      ah_lower.wav
                      89.8 Hz (±8.5)
                      More pitch variation - less stable
                      ah_lower_take2.wav
                      90.6 Hz (±1.7)
                      Much more stable than take1!
                      ah_higher.wav
                      215.3 Hz (±3.1)
                      Good for testing F0 invariance
                      ah_higher_take2.wav
                      224.5 Hz (±3.2)
                      Hottest levels (-2.6 dB peak)
                      I'll use ah_normal.wav as the primary source — it has the best combination of:
                      • Stable F0 (±1.5 Hz)
                      • Good level (-11.9 dB peak, plenty of headroom)
                      • Lowest noise floor (-55.9 dB)
                      • Nice male radio voice F0 (~120 Hz)
                      Huge thanks for this. We'll see how it goes.

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                        @Tamasg Have a thing.
                        https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/06xusmq45tjvddimav861/glottles.wav?rlkey=opxqxp3ruhb80qdgwva5eoyzl&dl=1

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                        Tamas G
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                        @BorrisInABox so here's the big difference. Existing: my voice drops from 1.0 to ~0.09 in ~28 samples, but then oscillates
                        Your pulse is cleaner, single clear cycle without the multi-peak oscillations. This should give more predictable harmonic structure.

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