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what's "the old internet" for you?

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  • joëlJ joël

    what's "the old internet" for you?

    subethaS This user is from outside of this forum
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    subetha
    wrote on last edited by
    #59

    @jollysea Throwing the long cable to the phone outlet until mum wants to call someone 😄

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    • joëlJ joël

      what's "the old internet" for you?

      Lars BrinkhoffL This user is from outside of this forum
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      Lars Brinkhoff
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      #60

      @jollysea
      @O 134

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      • joëlJ joël

        what's "the old internet" for you?

        cmdrSprocketC This user is from outside of this forum
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        cmdrSprocket
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        #61

        @jollysea I still remember chatting in bitnet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET not the language model!)

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        • joëlJ joël

          @joepie91 what would be an example for that?

          cyploC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #62

          @jollysea @joepie91 ii2 ! You could (gasp) upload photos !

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          • joëlJ joël

            what's "the old internet" for you?

            Chloé RaccoonC This user is from outside of this forum
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            Chloé Raccoon
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            #63

            @jollysea @patterfloof I could really gopher this poll...

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            • joëlJ joël

              what's "the old internet" for you?

              patterP This user is from outside of this forum
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              patter
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              #64

              @jollysea personal websites everywhere, all individually handmade

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              • joëlJ joël

                what's "the old internet" for you?

                Klaus SteinL This user is from outside of this forum
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                Klaus Stein
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                #65

                @jollysea
                The old Internet¹ is when people knew there are other protocols than HTTP(S), when the Internet was one way to access Usenet, when software was provided by anonymous ftp, …

                And then Angela Bennett (aka Sandra Bullock) ordered the first pizza online…

                __
                ¹the Internet is a network of computers based on IP that contains the machine internet.net. This definition is from the IPv4 only times. We still have problems with IPv6.

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                • Klaus SteinL Klaus Stein

                  @jollysea
                  The old Internet¹ is when people knew there are other protocols than HTTP(S), when the Internet was one way to access Usenet, when software was provided by anonymous ftp, …

                  And then Angela Bennett (aka Sandra Bullock) ordered the first pizza online…

                  __
                  ¹the Internet is a network of computers based on IP that contains the machine internet.net. This definition is from the IPv4 only times. We still have problems with IPv6.

                  joëlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #66

                  @Lapizistik seems like shortly after option 1.

                  WWW stands for "world wide web" and describes an "information system that enables content sharing over the Internet using a graphical user interface. It facilitates access to documents and other web resources according to specific rules of the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)."

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                  • joëlJ joël

                    @Lapizistik seems like shortly after option 1.

                    WWW stands for "world wide web" and describes an "information system that enables content sharing over the Internet using a graphical user interface. It facilitates access to documents and other web resources according to specific rules of the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)."

                    Klaus SteinL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #67

                    @jollysea

                    I know the web from before Tim Berners-Lee created http (remember gopher? 😉

                    But even when http was there for some years different services still used different hand-crafted protocols – until corporate firewalls started blocking everything besides http(s) and maybe ssh (and sometimes imap(s)) and suddenly all kinds of services were tunneled over https (ok, and REST was invented).

                    But I am kinda off from your question as you asked from an end user perspective (where most people won't even know about what's going on under the hood). So sorry for derailing 😉

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                    • joëlJ joël

                      what's "the old internet" for you?

                      UsagiB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #68

                      @jollysea@chaos.social You could find stuff on it. ​​

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                      • joëlJ joël

                        what's "the old internet" for you?

                        Kevin Karhan :verified:K This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Kevin Karhan :verified:
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                        #69

                        @jollysea #IRC, #RSS, #HTML and no CSS bloat or #JS #malware!

                        https://disable-javascript.org

                        #DisableJavaScript #JavaScript

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                        • joëlJ joël

                          what's "the old internet" for you?

                          Wulfy—Speaker to the machinesN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Wulfy—Speaker to the machines
                          wrote last edited by
                          #70

                          @jollysea

                          My first #Internet access was via Goverent gateway.
                          You had to be sub-contracting at the least.
                          It was expensive (Like 20c per minute?)

                          I could check my bills, but they are on a MICROFISHE!!!!

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                          • joëlJ joël

                            what's "the old internet" for you?

                            Yuki "neige d'aout" Hazuki 膤 ❄️ :heart_trans:​Y This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #71

                            @jollysea that'd be, in order:

                            • Arpanet/Early Internet
                            • Web 1.0
                            • Early Web 2.0
                            • Late Web 2.0

                            Old Internet is whatever that came before the current one and you remember was better, I guess

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                            • joëlJ joël

                              what's "the old internet" for you?

                              Net Gremlin 🚴🏻 🐧 🇩🇪N This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Net Gremlin 🚴🏻 🐧 🇩🇪
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                              #72

                              @jollysea Web site were usable w/o adblocker. No tracking.

                              and at least: No Nazis.

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                              • Wulfy—Speaker to the machinesN Wulfy—Speaker to the machines

                                @jollysea

                                My first #Internet access was via Goverent gateway.
                                You had to be sub-contracting at the least.
                                It was expensive (Like 20c per minute?)

                                I could check my bills, but they are on a MICROFISHE!!!!

                                joëlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                joël
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                                #73

                                @n_dimension wow you have your old bills on microfiche? please tell me more about that! (unironically, I only know microfiche from movies and TV!)

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                                • Klaus SteinL Klaus Stein

                                  @jollysea

                                  I know the web from before Tim Berners-Lee created http (remember gopher? 😉

                                  But even when http was there for some years different services still used different hand-crafted protocols – until corporate firewalls started blocking everything besides http(s) and maybe ssh (and sometimes imap(s)) and suddenly all kinds of services were tunneled over https (ok, and REST was invented).

                                  But I am kinda off from your question as you asked from an end user perspective (where most people won't even know about what's going on under the hood). So sorry for derailing 😉

                                  joëlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  joël
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                                  #74

                                  @Lapizistik tbh I'm loving all the replies, people telling me about times I only know from stories (I knew that gopher existed but never used it, I experienced telnet once!) to forums, early social media etc. It's all fascinating

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                                  • joëlJ joël

                                    @Lapizistik tbh I'm loving all the replies, people telling me about times I only know from stories (I knew that gopher existed but never used it, I experienced telnet once!) to forums, early social media etc. It's all fascinating

                                    Klaus SteinL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #75

                                    @jollysea
                                    Tales from these times are great, and one thing is: it is tales from a time where people were trying to figure out how to do things best without any direct commercial interests – there simply was no one online trying to sell something.

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                                    • 🌙 ▪️▪️▪️ 🦇Q 🌙 ▪️▪️▪️ 🦇

                                      @jollysea rotten dot com, phpBB, Kazaa/eMule, Lord of the Weed and old messengers like ICQ (*insert new message sound here*) and MSN 💜

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                                      @quasiabsolut @jollysea same! Did you click 2 or 3?

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                                      • DG5DBHH DG5DBH

                                        @jollysea ein MUD.

                                        Im Prinzip die deutsche Version von Nightfall.

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                                        @HolgerMBGL

                                        @jollysea

                                        Was? It still is (and I know people still actively playing – and their daughter also started to play).

                                        I never started playing a mud when I was a student as I saw too many dropping out of university without graduating because they spent all there time in the mud (but I was on irc and played (and still play) nethack)

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                                        • joëlJ joël

                                          what's "the old internet" for you?

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                                          Bugspriet @39c3 Ext 71433
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                                          #78

                                          @jollysea Mainly searching results were not that filtered. I explored content from all countries of the world and sometimes had a hard time translating. But nowadays I get what I know from the same two or three countries.

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