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  • Mark DennehyM Mark Dennehy

    @cstross Minimum distance* from the UK to Ireland is 1.3km (about .85 miles) between Magilligan point and Greencastle, so are they proposing to annex Donegal as part of Brexit now?
    Because Donegal is in the EU and the EU is less of a fan than you'd think of people annexing its territory.

    *Minimum distance by sea, obviously. Minimum distance by land is zero.

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    @markdennehy @cstross you think these people give a suffering fig for Nordie Land?

    It didn't enter their calculations and machinations in 2016, it "robbed" them of their Glorious Sunlit Uplands in 2020, it is an irritation to them, nothing more.

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

      The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

      Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

      Revolutions are *hungry*.

      UilebheistU This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cstross The Daily Distress.

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      • Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @FediThing @cstross
        ECHR isn't an EU thing.
        UK founded it.

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        • Ray McCarthyR Ray McCarthy

          @FediThing @cstross
          ECHR isn't an EU thing.
          UK founded it.

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          @raymaccarthy @FediThing Yes, although adopting it is mandatory for EU membership: the Brexiters are somehow convinced that they want rid of it (despite it initially being called for by their object of veneration Winston Churchill.)

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

            The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

            Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

            Revolutions are *hungry*.

            Angus McIntyreA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #22

            @cstross Ah yes, it's “The reason why Brexit didn't work is because it wasn't REAL Brexit." It's the right-wing version of the continually-moving-the-goalposts logic that has a certain class of tankie telling you that the reason the Soviet Union wasn't paradise on Earth is because it wasn't REAL Communism (that part at least is true, but …)

            I assume the Real Brexiteers won't be happy until the British Empire is restored. Or not even then, because of course it won't be the REAL British Empire …

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

              The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

              Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

              Revolutions are *hungry*.

              UilebheistU This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cstross Also, stop all supplies coming into the UK 12 miles from port. Or unload into a British vessel in the middle of the sea!!!!111!!!!

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

                The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

                Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

                Revolutions are *hungry*.

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                @cstross I don't think that will cut it. I think true Brexit will be achieved when the UK bans all exchanges of any kind with the EU: trade, people, communication, including sectioning Internet cables.
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                • Angus McIntyreA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @bruce Coming soon to a @cstross novel near you: “Undead cyborg Admiral Nelson commanding Her Majesty's warships Caledonia and Hibernia at the re-taking of Hong Kong and Kowloon: Chinese robot defenders sorely discomfited by brisk volley of grapeshot fired by stout-hearted tars of the Royal Navy.”

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                  • DanielA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @rogerb @angusm @cstross That’s not too far from current reality anyways, is it?

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                    • Cass M 🇨🇦 :failtusk: :CApride:C This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @rogerb @angusm @cstross same as the Alberta separatists…they think they'll get statehood because oil but would become a territory with subjected to poor wages and unleashed pollution.

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                      • Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫P This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @Remittancegirl @angusm @cstross

                        They're trapped by a politics of negativity. They don't want to build, nourish, invest, research, create. It's all ban this, cancel that, withdraw from any kind of cooperation, stop the boats, cut taxes, cut regulations. They're full of ideas to stop doing things or go back to an imagined past, haven't got the most rudimentary idea of a positive thing to start doing or a way to move forwards.

                        Also they're super racist and creepy around women and children.

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                        • Angus McIntyreA Angus McIntyre

                          @cstross Ah yes, it's “The reason why Brexit didn't work is because it wasn't REAL Brexit." It's the right-wing version of the continually-moving-the-goalposts logic that has a certain class of tankie telling you that the reason the Soviet Union wasn't paradise on Earth is because it wasn't REAL Communism (that part at least is true, but …)

                          I assume the Real Brexiteers won't be happy until the British Empire is restored. Or not even then, because of course it won't be the REAL British Empire …

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                          @angusm @cstross On the continent, we call this kind of thing a Dolchstosslegende: it is taken as so self-evident that X should have succeeded, even if it clearly didn't (say starting WW I, or leaving the EU), it must be due to some deep conspiracy, so the solution is to do the same thing, only harder...

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                          • Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫P Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫

                            @Remittancegirl @angusm @cstross

                            They're trapped by a politics of negativity. They don't want to build, nourish, invest, research, create. It's all ban this, cancel that, withdraw from any kind of cooperation, stop the boats, cut taxes, cut regulations. They're full of ideas to stop doing things or go back to an imagined past, haven't got the most rudimentary idea of a positive thing to start doing or a way to move forwards.

                            Also they're super racist and creepy around women and children.

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                            @petealexharris @Remittancegirl @angusm @cstross That’s because they dare not actually be upfront about what they want to impose on us. So their main way of getting people on side is to simply make people scared and angry at imaginary things.

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                            • Angus McIntyreA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @rogerb @cstross "Take back control! (and give it to a few of our rich mates on the other side of the Atlantic)”

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

                                The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

                                Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

                                Revolutions are *hungry*.

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                                @cstross thanks, now I'm listening to DDT's "Revolution" (ДДТ - Революция). "Revolution, you taught us to believe in virtue's injustice. How many worlds an hour will we burn in the name of your bright fire?"

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                                • Bruno NicolettiB Bruno Nicoletti

                                  @petealexharris @Remittancegirl @angusm @cstross That’s because they dare not actually be upfront about what they want to impose on us. So their main way of getting people on side is to simply make people scared and angry at imaginary things.

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                                  @petealexharris @Remittancegirl @angusm @cstross Quoting Sergio Caneva, writing in 1973, describing Italian Fascism in his book documenting the history of partisans in the Veneto (my translation).

                                  “Fascism was neither an idea nor a doctrine, it was just a big cloud of soot created to defend the interest of the land owners and industrialists ... with the abuse of the word ‘fatherland’.”

                                  History rhyming and all that.

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                                  • Bruno NicolettiB Bruno Nicoletti

                                    @petealexharris @Remittancegirl @angusm @cstross That’s because they dare not actually be upfront about what they want to impose on us. So their main way of getting people on side is to simply make people scared and angry at imaginary things.

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                                    @bjn @Remittancegirl @angusm @cstross

                                    Yeah, but all the things they aren't saying out loud yet are more of the same turned up to 11.

                                    They want to do a smash and grab to loot the country, and maybe aren't openly admitting the intent to grab, but all they're offering is the smash.

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                                    • Fazal MajidF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @rogerb @angusm @cstross it's almost as if the British Empire they yearn so nostalgically for couldn't be made to work without the 50 trillion pounds it extracted from India over 200 years.

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                                      • Angus McIntyreA Angus McIntyre

                                        @cstross Ah yes, it's “The reason why Brexit didn't work is because it wasn't REAL Brexit." It's the right-wing version of the continually-moving-the-goalposts logic that has a certain class of tankie telling you that the reason the Soviet Union wasn't paradise on Earth is because it wasn't REAL Communism (that part at least is true, but …)

                                        I assume the Real Brexiteers won't be happy until the British Empire is restored. Or not even then, because of course it won't be the REAL British Empire …

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                                        @angusm
                                        In truth, they'll never be happy because their joints still ache and their pub is still closed.

                                        everything else is pretending the reason is grander than they can admit.
                                        @cstross

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                                          @FediThing @cstross
                                          Well obviously all the people in the detention camps will be those to blame. And if you asking awkward questions about the camps, you obviously should be sent to them too. England Prevails!

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