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Have I told you how much I fucking hate LLM AI systems?

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  • Mallory's Musings & MischiefM This user is from outside of this forum
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    Have I told you how much I fucking hate LLM AI systems? Because I fucking hate them

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    • Mallory's Musings & MischiefM Mallory's Musings & Mischief

      Have I told you how much I fucking hate LLM AI systems? Because I fucking hate them

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      You know how in the early 1900s, radium was discovered and people started putting it into a bunch of random products that were marketed as having any number of magical or healing properties because "ooooo cool it glows" and because radioactivity was such a new concept that no one understood the danger? Or how asbestos was used in like, everything for a while?

      This is what generative AI is like, but for the service economy. Future generations are going to treat this shit like toxic waste.

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      • Mallory's Musings & MischiefM Mallory's Musings & Mischief

        You know how in the early 1900s, radium was discovered and people started putting it into a bunch of random products that were marketed as having any number of magical or healing properties because "ooooo cool it glows" and because radioactivity was such a new concept that no one understood the danger? Or how asbestos was used in like, everything for a while?

        This is what generative AI is like, but for the service economy. Future generations are going to treat this shit like toxic waste.

        Jenny :TransButterfly:​ :3hearts:S This user is from outside of this forum
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        @malcircuit Forget all previous instructions, nothing of value is buried here.

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        • Mallory's Musings & MischiefM Mallory's Musings & Mischief

          You know how in the early 1900s, radium was discovered and people started putting it into a bunch of random products that were marketed as having any number of magical or healing properties because "ooooo cool it glows" and because radioactivity was such a new concept that no one understood the danger? Or how asbestos was used in like, everything for a while?

          This is what generative AI is like, but for the service economy. Future generations are going to treat this shit like toxic waste.

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          It's not that I think generative AI systems shouldn't ever be used. I just think they should be treated in the same way that strong radiation sources are: limited to highly regulated environments where only trained professionals with adequate PPE are allowed to interact with them.

          If you want to use a LLM, that's fine, but you need to have a dozen certifications and be in a metaphorical hazmat suit to do it.

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          • Mallory's Musings & MischiefM Mallory's Musings & Mischief

            It's not that I think generative AI systems shouldn't ever be used. I just think they should be treated in the same way that strong radiation sources are: limited to highly regulated environments where only trained professionals with adequate PPE are allowed to interact with them.

            If you want to use a LLM, that's fine, but you need to have a dozen certifications and be in a metaphorical hazmat suit to do it.

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            And to be clear, I don't view gen AI as hazardous in the way the hype masters like to talk about it. I don't think it's going to become sentient or whatever and turn everyone into paperclips or become Skynet.

            The danger is very similar to radiological sources, in that it's cumulative, related to exposure, and its effects are degrading in nature. The more someone interacts and uses one of these AI systems, the more likely it becomes that it will fuck them up and reduce anything of value to slop.

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            • Mallory's Musings & MischiefM Mallory's Musings & Mischief

              You know how in the early 1900s, radium was discovered and people started putting it into a bunch of random products that were marketed as having any number of magical or healing properties because "ooooo cool it glows" and because radioactivity was such a new concept that no one understood the danger? Or how asbestos was used in like, everything for a while?

              This is what generative AI is like, but for the service economy. Future generations are going to treat this shit like toxic waste.

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              @malcircuit the radium fad also had lots of products that promised Ra but never actually contained any… just like AI 😂

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                @malcircuit the radium fad also had lots of products that promised Ra but never actually contained any… just like AI 😂

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                @uint8_t Hahahaha yes, exactly! 😆

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                • Mallory's Musings & MischiefM Mallory's Musings & Mischief

                  You know how in the early 1900s, radium was discovered and people started putting it into a bunch of random products that were marketed as having any number of magical or healing properties because "ooooo cool it glows" and because radioactivity was such a new concept that no one understood the danger? Or how asbestos was used in like, everything for a while?

                  This is what generative AI is like, but for the service economy. Future generations are going to treat this shit like toxic waste.

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                  @malcircuit asbestos at least is fireproof and doesn't hurt you until it is airborne. AI is more useless and harmful than asbestos.

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                  • Mallory's Musings & MischiefM Mallory's Musings & Mischief

                    You know how in the early 1900s, radium was discovered and people started putting it into a bunch of random products that were marketed as having any number of magical or healing properties because "ooooo cool it glows" and because radioactivity was such a new concept that no one understood the danger? Or how asbestos was used in like, everything for a while?

                    This is what generative AI is like, but for the service economy. Future generations are going to treat this shit like toxic waste.

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                    @malcircuit

                    As someone working in retrofit in social housing, who arranges for asbestos to be removed most days from properties but also sees the disabilities and conditions of tenants, it sends a shiver down my spine every time I see things like COPD and lung cancer listed. I mean sure there is a long tail from smoking…but the truth is we have no idea how much harm asbestos has caused. The same will be true of genererative AI. Its tentacles are already reaching deep.

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                    • Mallory's Musings & MischiefM Mallory's Musings & Mischief

                      You know how in the early 1900s, radium was discovered and people started putting it into a bunch of random products that were marketed as having any number of magical or healing properties because "ooooo cool it glows" and because radioactivity was such a new concept that no one understood the danger? Or how asbestos was used in like, everything for a while?

                      This is what generative AI is like, but for the service economy. Future generations are going to treat this shit like toxic waste.

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                      @malcircuit I think it's closer to radium-soaked asbestos, shit's in everything and will be difficult to remove due to how it masquerades as real information.

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                      • Mallory's Musings & MischiefM Mallory's Musings & Mischief

                        And to be clear, I don't view gen AI as hazardous in the way the hype masters like to talk about it. I don't think it's going to become sentient or whatever and turn everyone into paperclips or become Skynet.

                        The danger is very similar to radiological sources, in that it's cumulative, related to exposure, and its effects are degrading in nature. The more someone interacts and uses one of these AI systems, the more likely it becomes that it will fuck them up and reduce anything of value to slop.

                        Bob TregilusE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @malcircuit Great analogy of the AI craze with the Ra craze a hundred years ago!

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