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  3. Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

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  • PhilipO Philip

    @glynmoody @mike I imagine most average people just click "Accept all" without a second thought because it gets them to the content. "Informed consent" this is not!

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    @oilheap indeed @mike

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    • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

      @glynmoody I wonder whether sites that don't have a Deny All button have any idea how much business they're losing.

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      #22

      @mike @glynmoody They might. It's an easy statistic to create. But us closing the site is the point if such popups, isn't it? We would create traffic that doesn't produce sellable data. Sure, it's a black and white view on the issue. But in general that is why there is no obvious deny all option.

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      • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

        I wonder how many others do this.

        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

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        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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        wrote last edited by
        #23

        @mike Very much what I do. If I cannot say "no" with a click, I will tend not to bother.

        I even do this at work - where I might be searching for something quite specific, but I am still not accepting sites which are desperate for me to let them know who I am.

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        • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

          Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

          If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

          But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

          I wonder how many others do this.

          And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

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          UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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          wrote last edited by
          #24

          @mike you still get cookies pop-ups?

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          • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

            Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

            If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

            But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

            I wonder how many others do this.

            And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

            —
            UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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            wrote last edited by
            #25

            @mike Same. except first I try to bypass it entirely by hitting “Show Reader” button if available

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            • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

              Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

              If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

              But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

              I wonder how many others do this.

              And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

              —
              UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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              wrote last edited by
              #26

              @mike
              Yup, me too.
              Also wtf is 'legitimate interest'?

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              • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                I wonder how many others do this.

                And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                —
                UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                wrote last edited by
                #27

                @mike

                Yes. If there is no button labelled ‘Reject All’ or ‘Accept Only Necessary,’ then it's goodbye.

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                • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                  @glynmoody I wonder whether sites that don't have a Deny All button have any idea how much business they're losing.

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #28

                  They're not losing business. Their business is to sell tracked impressions to surveillance vendors, so deny all and a lost reader are both worth nothing.
                  @mike @glynmoody

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                  • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                    Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                    If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                    But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                    I wonder how many others do this.

                    And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                    —
                    UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #29

                    @mike

                    Me too.

                    And I turn back on sites which give me the MAYBE LATER option instead of NO.

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                    • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                      I wonder how many others do this.

                      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                      —
                      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #30

                      @mike yes, this is what I do. At first I stressed over the “should I or shouldn’t I” decisions, then just decided I didn’t need that in my life, and that turned out to be correct 😅

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                      • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                        I wonder how many others do this.

                        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                        —
                        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #31

                        @mike

                        I will not view a site if reject all isn’t available

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                        • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                          Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                          If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                          But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                          I wonder how many others do this.

                          And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                          —
                          UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #32

                          @mike More or less, I'm not religious about it, but yes, I'm also noticing a strong "I don't bother attitude".

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                          • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                            Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                            If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                            But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                            I wonder how many others do this.

                            And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                            —
                            UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #33

                            @mike The worst slimy pattern is doing this with a complicated preferences panel that, when you finally click "save preferences", puts up a box saying there was an error saving preferences and kicks you back to the start. Instant nope. Breaking law, attempting plausible deniability, exploiting sunk cost fallacy.

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                            • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                              Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                              If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                              But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                              I wonder how many others do this.

                              And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                              —
                              UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #34

                              @mike I definitely do this (but I also go down their stupid UI-nightmare rabbit hole to see if I have options first, and usually it’s buried in there somewhere).

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                              • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                                Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                I wonder how many others do this.

                                And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                —
                                UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #35

                                @mike
                                i admit too often im too curious and still do the extra clicks to get to the content and sometimes, which is also way too often, i also click „accept all“

                                the most important fact:

                                „we care about privacy“ is a lie if it’s coming in a cookie banner.

                                who really cares about privacy can do real necessary cookies without additional banner.
                                who does it anyway deserves no click at all - not reject all, not extra preferences settings, and least accept all

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                                • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                                  Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                  If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                  But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                  I wonder how many others do this.

                                  And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                  —
                                  UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #36

                                  @mike Been doing it since the day I first encountered it

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                                  • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                                    Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                    If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                    But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                    I wonder how many others do this.

                                    And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                    —
                                    UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #37

                                    @mike Same, but if I'm really interested and there's no easy way to reject all I open the page in an anonymous window.

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                                      #38

                                      @gim @mike @jokeyrhyme That's another try to be US-Bigtech friendly by the politicians/EU commission.
                                      The problem the runway for that is getting shorter and shorter. The last time (In the never ending Schrems Saga) the ECJ bound the GDPR privacy rights literally directly to the Charter, so bending the GDPR to weaken privacy literally would require EU Treaty changes.
                                      So the whole thing the EU Commission is planning stands on wooden feet, but it will buy the "IT industry" a couple of months/years.

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                                      • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                                        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                        I wonder how many others do this.

                                        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                        —
                                        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #39

                                        @mike @dangillmor Same.

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                                        • Mike Taylor 🦕M Mike Taylor 🦕

                                          Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                          If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                          But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                          I wonder how many others do this.

                                          And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                          —
                                          UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #40

                                          @mike Yes indeed! but I fear we are a minority. Fediverse-based sample group probably a bit biased.

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