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  3. Rotavirus causes really really nasty diarrhea -- the kind that can put kids in the hospital to get IV fluids.

Rotavirus causes really really nasty diarrhea -- the kind that can put kids in the hospital to get IV fluids.

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  • Jennifer Hamilton, MD PhDJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Rotavirus causes really really nasty diarrhea -- the kind that can put kids in the hospital to get IV fluids. I'm citing the CDC itself at https://www.cdc.gov/pinkbook/hcp/table-of-contents/chapter-19-rotavirus.html:

    Before rotavirus vaccine, estimated 2.7M infections every year; 410K doc visits, 200K ER visits, 55-70K hospitalizations, and 20-60 deaths every year.

    A vaccine that prevents all that, and doesn't even need a shot? For a disease that 95% of kids get by age 5? But it has to do with poop, so off the recommended list.

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    • Jennifer Hamilton, MD PhDJ Jennifer Hamilton, MD PhD

      Rotavirus causes really really nasty diarrhea -- the kind that can put kids in the hospital to get IV fluids. I'm citing the CDC itself at https://www.cdc.gov/pinkbook/hcp/table-of-contents/chapter-19-rotavirus.html:

      Before rotavirus vaccine, estimated 2.7M infections every year; 410K doc visits, 200K ER visits, 55-70K hospitalizations, and 20-60 deaths every year.

      A vaccine that prevents all that, and doesn't even need a shot? For a disease that 95% of kids get by age 5? But it has to do with poop, so off the recommended list.

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      Jennifer Hamilton, MD PhDJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      Last in the "squick" group are the meningitis vaccines. In teens, meningococcal meningitis is associated with close contact: college dorms, military barracks, and necking. But here's the thing: in small kids, the ACWY vaccine was already recommended only for those at higher risk. The men B vaccine was never recommended for all teens -- it was for those at high risk, plus "ask your doctor." Policy is changing for ACWY vaccine for teens, but the press release makes it sound like more than that.

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        Last in the "squick" group are the meningitis vaccines. In teens, meningococcal meningitis is associated with close contact: college dorms, military barracks, and necking. But here's the thing: in small kids, the ACWY vaccine was already recommended only for those at higher risk. The men B vaccine was never recommended for all teens -- it was for those at high risk, plus "ask your doctor." Policy is changing for ACWY vaccine for teens, but the press release makes it sound like more than that.

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        Today's press release from the CDC goes out of its way to highlight how many vaccines aren't recommended for every kid -- EVEN THE ONES THAT NEVER WERE. Dengue is only for a very small group. RSV antibodies are only if vaccine wasn't given in pregnancy. Men B vaccine has always been "ask your doctor."

        The downgrading of prior recommendations will mean many kids won't get vaccinated, some will get sick, and a few will die.

        And the hype on top of the changes shows just how anti-vax HHS now is.

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        • Jennifer Hamilton, MD PhDJ Jennifer Hamilton, MD PhD

          Rotavirus causes really really nasty diarrhea -- the kind that can put kids in the hospital to get IV fluids. I'm citing the CDC itself at https://www.cdc.gov/pinkbook/hcp/table-of-contents/chapter-19-rotavirus.html:

          Before rotavirus vaccine, estimated 2.7M infections every year; 410K doc visits, 200K ER visits, 55-70K hospitalizations, and 20-60 deaths every year.

          A vaccine that prevents all that, and doesn't even need a shot? For a disease that 95% of kids get by age 5? But it has to do with poop, so off the recommended list.

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          Nimona RESISTSV This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jeneralist Ah yes, the CDC website. Used to be useful, but now is run by quacks who got their doctor licenses from a Cracker Jack box.

          Will the AMA run its own trusted website with actual, useful information? And if they do, will it get banned for being useful?

          Yes, there is a restored version of the CDC site, from before the Year From Hell started (https://restoredcdc.org/www.cdc.gov/). Is that getting updates over time? Actual health information from real doctors?

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            @jeneralist Ah yes, the CDC website. Used to be useful, but now is run by quacks who got their doctor licenses from a Cracker Jack box.

            Will the AMA run its own trusted website with actual, useful information? And if they do, will it get banned for being useful?

            Yes, there is a restored version of the CDC site, from before the Year From Hell started (https://restoredcdc.org/www.cdc.gov/). Is that getting updates over time? Actual health information from real doctors?

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            Jennifer Hamilton, MD PhDJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @valen1 As I understand it, CHC Restored is deliberately stuck in January 2025, during the Biden administration. That's good as a point of reference.

            The AMA website doesn't focus on information for the public. It's targeted towards doctors. You may want to look at CIDRAP, the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, instead: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/

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