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  3. Today we're sharing the first in a series of three posts from our leadership team, starting with @mellifluousbox discussing our mission, and priorities for 2026.

Today we're sharing the first in a series of three posts from our leadership team, starting with @mellifluousbox discussing our mission, and priorities for 2026.

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  • Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩B Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

    @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

    the problem isn't mastodon it's your govt

    if mastodon servers don't implement age verification in those jurisdictions that make it law, those servers get shut down by that govt

    so you're blaming the wrong entity

    are you really asking servers to face legal punishment and then get shut down anyway?

    don't get me wrong: be angry

    *at your govt*

    not mastodon

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    #21

    @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Compliance with fascist laws is fascism.

    Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩B Juho MäntysaloI 2 Replies Last reply
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    • aria :blobcattrans:A aria :blobcattrans:

      @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Compliance with fascist laws is fascism.

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      #22

      @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

      oh shut the fuck up you edgelord

      just leave now then

      good fucking riddance

      all you're asking is that these servers be shut down and the people running them to face legal trouble

      THAT IS ALL YOU ARE ASKING FOR

      that is all your ego masturbation drama is good for!

      do you have the fucking brains to understand that that is the only way what you're asking for will go?

      you're angry about this?

      GOOD

      so go after YOUR GOVERNMENT

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      • CharlesC Charles

        @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

        Addressing the embarrassing lack of diversity on Mastodon should also be a goal.

        And no, asking white Europeans to attend lavish conferences in Germany to discuss isn't the solution.

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        #23

        @charlesdelavalleepoussin @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

        There seems to be a lot of lgbtq+-people here, so there is at least some diversity.

        If you mean skin colour, I don't know much this is about non-existence of not-whitepassing people, and how much it is them not writing in English?

        How popular is fediverse in Latin America, Africa, Asia, anyway?

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        • Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩B Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

          @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

          oh shut the fuck up you edgelord

          just leave now then

          good fucking riddance

          all you're asking is that these servers be shut down and the people running them to face legal trouble

          THAT IS ALL YOU ARE ASKING FOR

          that is all your ego masturbation drama is good for!

          do you have the fucking brains to understand that that is the only way what you're asking for will go?

          you're angry about this?

          GOOD

          so go after YOUR GOVERNMENT

          Lily StarS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #24

          @benroyce Such a calm and persuasive discussion.
          Good to know you are emotionally regulated, and prepared to argue your position on its merits.

          Or just call people names and rage, I guess.

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          • Lily StarS Lily Star

            @benroyce Such a calm and persuasive discussion.
            Good to know you are emotionally regulated, and prepared to argue your position on its merits.

            Or just call people names and rage, I guess.

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            #25

            @starlily

            yes i agree with you that edgelord ego masturbation drama over what mastodon is forced to do, and blaming the wrong culprit, is stupid

            and that it is more effective to attack the government for doing this. as long as one has enough neurons to realize the fucking obvious. instead of deciding that pumping up their ego with uselessly and moronically blaming mastodon instead like an emotionally unregulated cringelord because they like taking "brave stands" for the drama points

            thank you

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            • Lily StarS Lily Star

              @benroyce Such a calm and persuasive discussion.
              Good to know you are emotionally regulated, and prepared to argue your position on its merits.

              Or just call people names and rage, I guess.

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              #26

              @starlily @benroyce@mastodon.social it.s fully justified rage, to be honest. And "fuck you, make me" is an actual resistance strategy. Complying in advance makes the Nazi's job easy, making them take legal action against each and every single server embarrasses them

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              • aria :blobcattrans:A aria :blobcattrans:

                @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox Compliance with fascist laws is fascism.

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                #27

                @ariarhythmic @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                Your definition may of course vary, but if age-check in itself is fascism, it becomes hard to run any community or society where people don't know a lot about each other by other means.

                (Eg. a small town pub where "everybody knows your name".)

                The question of fascism comes up when we start talking about how the age-check is made, and what other information gets shared in addition to age. Or how that age-check can be misused, even in theory.

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                • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

                  @starlily @benroyce@mastodon.social it.s fully justified rage, to be honest. And "fuck you, make me" is an actual resistance strategy. Complying in advance makes the Nazi's job easy, making them take legal action against each and every single server embarrasses them

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                  #28

                  @fluffykittycat @starlily exactly this

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                  • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

                    @starlily @benroyce@mastodon.social it.s fully justified rage, to be honest. And "fuck you, make me" is an actual resistance strategy. Complying in advance makes the Nazi's job easy, making them take legal action against each and every single server embarrasses them

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                    #29

                    @fluffykittycat While you are correct, Ben is unreasonably unkind to anyone who crosses his path, even allies and friends.
                    I am sure hes an intelligent person, but his attitude sure doesnt reflect it.
                    Im pretty tired of hatred, especially from people who are supposed to be on the same side, so I muted him.

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                    • Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩B Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

                      @starlily

                      yes i agree with you that edgelord ego masturbation drama over what mastodon is forced to do, and blaming the wrong culprit, is stupid

                      and that it is more effective to attack the government for doing this. as long as one has enough neurons to realize the fucking obvious. instead of deciding that pumping up their ego with uselessly and moronically blaming mastodon instead like an emotionally unregulated cringelord because they like taking "brave stands" for the drama points

                      thank you

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                      #30

                      @benroyce @starlily Have you ever heard of the idea of disobedience?

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                      • aria :blobcattrans:A aria :blobcattrans:

                        @benroyce @starlily Have you ever heard of the idea of disobedience?

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                        #31

                        @benroyce @starlily It's when you don't do as you're told when asked to do something stupid. It's what a person with a conscience does when faced with authoritarian laws.

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                        • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

                          @ariarhythmic @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                          Your definition may of course vary, but if age-check in itself is fascism, it becomes hard to run any community or society where people don't know a lot about each other by other means.

                          (Eg. a small town pub where "everybody knows your name".)

                          The question of fascism comes up when we start talking about how the age-check is made, and what other information gets shared in addition to age. Or how that age-check can be misused, even in theory.

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                          #32

                          @iju @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                          looking at the emoji in aria's profile, not knowing if they are trans, but if they are i understand why they feel threatened by id checks

                          if i were trans i would feel intensely threatened, physically, mortally, by id checks

                          especially in countries like my like stupid fucking country (the usa)

                          at the same time:

                          if i *really* cared about id checks, i wouldn't be attacking the wrong entity

                          aria's heart is in the right place but their brain is AWOL

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                          • Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩B Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

                            @iju @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                            looking at the emoji in aria's profile, not knowing if they are trans, but if they are i understand why they feel threatened by id checks

                            if i were trans i would feel intensely threatened, physically, mortally, by id checks

                            especially in countries like my like stupid fucking country (the usa)

                            at the same time:

                            if i *really* cared about id checks, i wouldn't be attacking the wrong entity

                            aria's heart is in the right place but their brain is AWOL

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                            @benroyce @iju @Mastodon @mellifluousbox my point is when a fascist orders you do a fascist thing and you do as you're told, you're a moral failure.

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                            • aria :blobcattrans:A aria :blobcattrans:

                              @benroyce @starlily It's when you don't do as you're told when asked to do something stupid. It's what a person with a conscience does when faced with authoritarian laws.

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                              #34

                              @ariarhythmic @starlily

                              so disobey

                              run a server

                              do not abide by id checks

                              then the govt shows up

                              now you are REALLY identified to the authorities

                              aria:

                              if you are trans (just going off the emoji in your profile), i understand why id checks are threatening to you. physically. mortally even

                              your heart is in the right place

                              but your brain is completely missing!

                              go after your government!

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                              • Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩B Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

                                @ariarhythmic @starlily

                                so disobey

                                run a server

                                do not abide by id checks

                                then the govt shows up

                                now you are REALLY identified to the authorities

                                aria:

                                if you are trans (just going off the emoji in your profile), i understand why id checks are threatening to you. physically. mortally even

                                your heart is in the right place

                                but your brain is completely missing!

                                go after your government!

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                                @benroyce @starlily Why can't we *both* go after the governments and refuse to obey in advance?

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                                • aria :blobcattrans:A aria :blobcattrans:

                                  @benroyce @iju @Mastodon @mellifluousbox my point is when a fascist orders you do a fascist thing and you do as you're told, you're a moral failure.

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                                  @ariarhythmic @iju @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                                  aria:

                                  go

                                  run a server

                                  don't comply with id checks

                                  watch what happens

                                  nobody is standing in your way

                                  do it

                                  but might i suggest you vote, organize, and agitate to fight id laws?

                                  if you really cared?

                                  do you think walking up to a fascist and asking to be shot is effective resistance?

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                                  • aria :blobcattrans:A aria :blobcattrans:

                                    @benroyce @starlily Why can't we *both* go after the governments and refuse to obey in advance?

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                                    @ariarhythmic @starlily

                                    because it's tactically moronic

                                    you're not asking for resistance, you're demanding admins stand up and ask fascists to shoot them

                                    this is not brave, this is not strong, it's fucking stupid

                                    in resistance you think *strategy* and *tactics* because you want to be *effective*

                                    right?

                                    do you think grandstanding on social media with cringe foolish ineffective demands is anything remotely like that?

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                                    • Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩B Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩

                                      @iju @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                                      looking at the emoji in aria's profile, not knowing if they are trans, but if they are i understand why they feel threatened by id checks

                                      if i were trans i would feel intensely threatened, physically, mortally, by id checks

                                      especially in countries like my like stupid fucking country (the usa)

                                      at the same time:

                                      if i *really* cared about id checks, i wouldn't be attacking the wrong entity

                                      aria's heart is in the right place but their brain is AWOL

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                                      @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                                      Yeah, I noticed the emoji, and I do understand they're problably really raw about the developments of the past few years. Particularly if they're in the States.

                                      Opposing fascism is really healthy! I'm just concerned that jumping the gun with the GmbH leads to being ignored when sensible applications of age-checks (and what happens if you don't participate) are done.

                                      This seems paramount.

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                                      • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

                                        @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                                        Yeah, I noticed the emoji, and I do understand they're problably really raw about the developments of the past few years. Particularly if they're in the States.

                                        Opposing fascism is really healthy! I'm just concerned that jumping the gun with the GmbH leads to being ignored when sensible applications of age-checks (and what happens if you don't participate) are done.

                                        This seems paramount.

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                                        @benroyce @ariarhythmic @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                                        Taking the hard-line with fascism is healthy, but pushing others to any course of action without knowing the cost to them seems non-strategic. (In this case: turning GmbH into latter-day Pirate Bay.)

                                        No one battle will defeat fascism, but not fighting isn't the answer either. To push the allegory to the breaking point, we want sabotage and raiding, not cause a Verdun that will consume our future as surely as fascism will..

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                                        • aria :blobcattrans:A aria :blobcattrans:

                                          @benroyce @iju @Mastodon @mellifluousbox my point is when a fascist orders you do a fascist thing and you do as you're told, you're a moral failure.

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                                          @ariarhythmic @benroyce @Mastodon @mellifluousbox

                                          True, but have you considered that there are more ways to oppose fascist orders than just not applying them?

                                          It's often much safer and/or profitable to implement a solution that follows the letter of the order and not the spirit.

                                          Particularly in a situation like this where the order of implementation doesn't come from the fascists, or even (I think it's safe to say) collaborators.

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