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  • The Penguin of EvilE The Penguin of Evil

    @neil Sadly not just social media. Same is as true in the press (where female chancellors get mocked as Rachel from accounts, or for their outfits) - I'm not sure social media is the source of the problem somehow.

    Likewise I think a social media ban is a bad idea (and a disaster for disabled kids) - we need to actually fix social media, which means like a pub some people need to be shown the door and told not to come back

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    @etchedpixels @neil I don't feel that social media is the source of the problem, but I do feel that it adds fuel to the fire at a speed at which we have never had to cope before. That's not to say I support a ban, I don’t, but there needs to be some really thoughtful interventions, regulations, and societal change to make a real difference.

    But that sounds hard doesn't it. Probably requires money. Easier just to ban it and make money for the data brokers with their ID verification.

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    • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

      > I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day

      The examples included here are horrible. Not just the sex-shaming, but that too.

      I'm far from convinced that a social media ban is the answer, but the comment is still well worth reading - especially by men.

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/23/15-year-old-girl-misogyny-social-media-online-abuse

      RetR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @neil the depressing reality is that a group of (mostly) male, rich, powerful people (MPs and the broader British political class) are now discussing further punishing this group of young people by isolating them from any support they'd otherwise be able to find.

      Meanwhile the Online Safety Act is slowly making it more and more difficult for proper social media - circles centred around interests, passions and identities - to exist. Driving more users into all the platforms this young person talks about here - Instagram, TikTok etc.

      Once again, politicians have taken a problem, been offered nine hundred and ninety nine solutions and picked option 1000 - make everything worse.

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      • The Penguin of EvilE The Penguin of Evil

        @neil Sadly not just social media. Same is as true in the press (where female chancellors get mocked as Rachel from accounts, or for their outfits) - I'm not sure social media is the source of the problem somehow.

        Likewise I think a social media ban is a bad idea (and a disaster for disabled kids) - we need to actually fix social media, which means like a pub some people need to be shown the door and told not to come back

        woe2youW This user is from outside of this forum
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        @etchedpixels @neil "Rachel from Accounts" is a riff on the Aussies' "Scotty from Marketing".

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        • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

          > I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day

          The examples included here are horrible. Not just the sex-shaming, but that too.

          I'm far from convinced that a social media ban is the answer, but the comment is still well worth reading - especially by men.

          https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/23/15-year-old-girl-misogyny-social-media-online-abuse

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          @neil we've got to find a way to make society in general consider women as people rather than as objects.

          https://toot.wales/@HarriettMB/116119130512351083

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          • The Penguin of EvilE The Penguin of Evil

            @neil Sadly not just social media. Same is as true in the press (where female chancellors get mocked as Rachel from accounts, or for their outfits) - I'm not sure social media is the source of the problem somehow.

            Likewise I think a social media ban is a bad idea (and a disaster for disabled kids) - we need to actually fix social media, which means like a pub some people need to be shown the door and told not to come back

            ahnlakA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @etchedpixels @neil while I agree fully with the sentiment, I've shied away from pub comparisons due to the awkward fact that unaccompanied minors are banned from them.

            It's probably closer to banning children from the park because there might be a bad man lurking in the bushes...

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            • woe2youW woe2you

              @etchedpixels @neil "Rachel from Accounts" is a riff on the Aussies' "Scotty from Marketing".

              The Penguin of EvilE This user is from outside of this forum
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              @woe2you @neil But that kind of attack and belittling is focused almost entirely on women in positions of power, as is body shaming and poking fun at their outfits.

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              • The Penguin of EvilE The Penguin of Evil

                @woe2you @neil But that kind of attack and belittling is focused almost entirely on women in positions of power, as is body shaming and poking fun at their outfits.

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                @etchedpixels @woe2you

                Body shaming is very much common place, directed towards many women, not just something directed to women in positions of power!

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                • ahnlakA ahnlak

                  @etchedpixels @neil while I agree fully with the sentiment, I've shied away from pub comparisons due to the awkward fact that unaccompanied minors are banned from them.

                  It's probably closer to banning children from the park because there might be a bad man lurking in the bushes...

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                  @ahnlak @neil Looking at current social media behaviour in English language at least I fear it's more right now like banning unattended children from the park because the park is on Epstein's Island.

                  The park needs fixing.

                  Very good point on the pub analogy

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                  • The Penguin of EvilE The Penguin of Evil

                    @ahnlak @neil Looking at current social media behaviour in English language at least I fear it's more right now like banning unattended children from the park because the park is on Epstein's Island.

                    The park needs fixing.

                    Very good point on the pub analogy

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                    @etchedpixels @neil for sure, it's that really dodgy park with all the broken bottles and needles - I'm not saying the park isn't a problem, just that banning minors rather misses the problem.

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                    • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                      > I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day

                      The examples included here are horrible. Not just the sex-shaming, but that too.

                      I'm far from convinced that a social media ban is the answer, but the comment is still well worth reading - especially by men.

                      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/23/15-year-old-girl-misogyny-social-media-online-abuse

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                      @neil

                      Social media is dangerous so ban children rather than blame the companies (and their founders) for dangerous products. Same tactic as plastic is dangerous so shame individuals into recycling rather than blame the plastic makers. Billionaires are good at making "consumers" responsible for their bad products.

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                      • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                        > I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day

                        The examples included here are horrible. Not just the sex-shaming, but that too.

                        I'm far from convinced that a social media ban is the answer, but the comment is still well worth reading - especially by men.

                        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/23/15-year-old-girl-misogyny-social-media-online-abuse

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                        @neil Yeah, only adult women should be subjected to the vile misogyny. 🧐🥴

                        (It's a problem, no argument; I fail to see how isolating minors from communities they can find online is necessarily the answer, though.)

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                        • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                          > I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day

                          The examples included here are horrible. Not just the sex-shaming, but that too.

                          I'm far from convinced that a social media ban is the answer, but the comment is still well worth reading - especially by men.

                          https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/23/15-year-old-girl-misogyny-social-media-online-abuse

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                          @neil Name and shame, I say - the problem isn't that they're young (I remember old warehouse guys throwing hissies about losing their girlie pics in the locker room decades ago). It's that they suffer no consequences.

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                          • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                            > I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day

                            The examples included here are horrible. Not just the sex-shaming, but that too.

                            I'm far from convinced that a social media ban is the answer, but the comment is still well worth reading - especially by men.

                            https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/23/15-year-old-girl-misogyny-social-media-online-abuse

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                            @neil as long as there are people making misogyny profitable, this is only going to get worse. The platforms are profiting and face no real consequences for all their misdeeds, so we end up with this shitty reality. The social media ban was never about trying to fix any of the causes of the damage. It's all total bullshit and it makes me rage. They're doubling down on exploiting our kids and charging us extra for it.

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