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i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

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  • Gaëtan PerraultG This user is from outside of this forum
    Gaëtan PerraultG This user is from outside of this forum
    Gaëtan Perrault
    wrote last edited by
    #46

    @b0rk I love that your response to this is a simple Gist on GitHub. Not only do you prefer to use static sites, but "here is a static file to host my answer about static sites"... Very on brand.

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    • Dave HollandD This user is from outside of this forum
      Dave HollandD This user is from outside of this forum
      Dave Holland
      wrote last edited by
      #47

      @b0rk Good plan - so many of my write-and-forget tools have a "runme.sh" wrapper to encapsulate the PATH, venv, and whatever other requirements. It's good to have an obvious entry point.

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      • Kal FeherK This user is from outside of this forum
        Kal FeherK This user is from outside of this forum
        Kal Feher
        wrote last edited by
        #48

        @b0rk tech stack is very similar to mine, which must be why I agree with it.
        except "try to avoid buying domains". I keep failing, pls help.

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        • Kal FeherK Kal Feher

          @b0rk tech stack is very similar to mine, which must be why I agree with it.
          except "try to avoid buying domains". I keep failing, pls help.

          Julia EvansB This user is from outside of this forum
          Julia EvansB This user is from outside of this forum
          Julia Evans
          wrote last edited by
          #49

          @kalfeher right now gandi.net is trying to charge me $50/year to renew a domain which is a big source of motivation to keep the number down

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          • jeremiahJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jeremiahJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #50

            @b0rk I feel validated that I have landed on similar patterns. I'm a little more tolerant of a VPS but I am growing less patient with them.

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            • jasonkarnsJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #51

              @b0rk I’m a huge fan of GitHub’s scripts to tune them all pattern. I try to set them up in every project I join.

              (Side Benefit of executable scripts like ./script/server, is that you can quietly upgrade them to a Perl/Ruby/whatever script without changing invocation command)

              https://github.com/github/scripts-to-rule-them-all

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              • Iain McLarenI This user is from outside of this forum
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                #52

                @b0rk this resonates. Your github preferred tech stacks list makes perfect sense imo.

                It’s impossible to productively use all the programming languages, hosting and service providers, and tech stacks so we have to pick based on what works for us in the moment and over time.

                I try to be open to the new, but if something is too fiddly to setup or is inelegant then I think that it’s perfectly reasonable to just use what works.

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                • Adam Williamson :fedora:A Adam Williamson :fedora:

                  @vathpela @b0rk ...but then I'd need a README to remind me of the make arguments... 😂

                  Mauricio Teixeira🐧:kubernetes:B This user is from outside of this forum
                  Mauricio Teixeira🐧:kubernetes:B This user is from outside of this forum
                  Mauricio Teixeira🐧:kubernetes:
                  wrote last edited by
                  #53

                  @adamw @vathpela @b0rk
                  I've built projects where I had a README *and* a Makefile, but I still fumbled searching for the commands in my Bash history. 😄

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                  • Mauricio Teixeira🐧:kubernetes:B Mauricio Teixeira🐧:kubernetes:

                    @adamw @vathpela @b0rk
                    I've built projects where I had a README *and* a Makefile, but I still fumbled searching for the commands in my Bash history. 😄

                    Joe BrockmeierJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    Joe BrockmeierJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    Joe Brockmeier
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                    #54

                    @badnetmask @adamw @vathpela @b0rk I like ‘just’ for this sort of thing. Just sayin’.

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                    • Irene ElmerotE This user is from outside of this forum
                      Irene ElmerotE This user is from outside of this forum
                      Irene Elmerot
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                      #55

                      @b0rk
                      I ordered and paid for such a site recently. We're still out here😃

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                      • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

                        i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

                        - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
                        - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
                        - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

                        i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

                        Owl EyesD This user is from outside of this forum
                        Owl EyesD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #56

                        @b0rk I feel the same way. I endorse #Hugo for blogs, and for a simple wiki? #mkdocs

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                        • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

                          i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

                          - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
                          - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
                          - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

                          i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

                          AdrianT This user is from outside of this forum
                          AdrianT This user is from outside of this forum
                          Adrian
                          wrote last edited by
                          #57

                          @b0rk I had this case lately where I wanted to hand over a static website to a client, fully expecting that I can show them an open source alternative of Dreamweaver, just to figure that none such projects are alive anymore.

                          So I produced a bookmarklet that let's them edit parts of the website inbrowser, download the updated document, and upload it via ftp.

                          Still better then attaching a cms 😅 I would do almost anything for low-effort webdev. And I believe folks should become aware of html as document again. I even checked if editing the website in Libre/OpenOffice would work out...

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                          • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

                            i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

                            - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
                            - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
                            - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

                            i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

                            George GirtonM This user is from outside of this forum
                            George GirtonM This user is from outside of this forum
                            George Girton
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                            #58

                            @b0rk

                            I made this super simple "template" system with awk to make it easier to maintain scanus.com🍸😺 eventually i put it on github🍸🐈

                            https://github.com/ggirton/insert-3-files

                            Last year i needed to remove several menu entries & it meant i didn't have to make the same edits 20 times!🍸😹

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                            • Julia EvansB Julia Evans

                              i like to make websites and I've been slowly realizing that my requirements for making websites might be a little weird

                              - I have maybe 20 websites (mostly static but not all)
                              - I want to spend basically 0 time maintaining them, maybe 5 minutes every 2 months at most
                              - I need to be able to ignore a project for 3 years and then come back and be able to develop it easily

                              i feel like all of this stuff makes my choice of tech stack different than if I worked on one site full-time

                              Aidas BendoraitisD This user is from outside of this forum
                              Aidas BendoraitisD This user is from outside of this forum
                              Aidas Bendoraitis
                              wrote last edited by
                              #59

                              @b0rk Sounds like work for static website generators like Hugo, McDocs, etc.

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                              • JohnJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                JohnJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                John
                                wrote last edited by
                                #60

                                @b0rk This (the gist) all makes sense to me except that I don't think I understand the no-method-call restriction in Go's html/template system. The docs seem to suggest you can call methods (https://pkg.go.dev/text/template#:~:text=.Method,receiver%2C%20dot.Method().), so you and the docs must be talking about something slightly different but I'm not sure what that difference is.

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                                • JohnJ John

                                  @b0rk This (the gist) all makes sense to me except that I don't think I understand the no-method-call restriction in Go's html/template system. The docs seem to suggest you can call methods (https://pkg.go.dev/text/template#:~:text=.Method,receiver%2C%20dot.Method().), so you and the docs must be talking about something slightly different but I'm not sure what that difference is.

                                  Julia EvansB This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Julia EvansB This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Julia Evans
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #61

                                  @jpab thanks! honestly I think I just made a mistake, there is definitely something I really struggle with about Go templates but maybe that thing specifically is not what it is. i find it kind of hard to get a handle on

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