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Speaking Thai to order Thai spicy at restaurants, and speaking various Chinese languages to get ‘a properly painful massage’, are my most important cultural things that keep me happy as an immigrant.

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  • Adrianna TanS This user is from outside of this forum
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    Speaking Thai to order Thai spicy at restaurants, and speaking various Chinese languages to get ‘a properly painful massage’, are my most important cultural things that keep me happy as an immigrant. No spicy food, no painful massage, I might as well go home

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    • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

      Speaking Thai to order Thai spicy at restaurants, and speaking various Chinese languages to get ‘a properly painful massage’, are my most important cultural things that keep me happy as an immigrant. No spicy food, no painful massage, I might as well go home

      Je ne suis pas gothJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @skinnylatte a friend of mine had his (Chinese) girlfriend teach him how to say the names of some of the items on the menu over the phone, because when he asked for them directly at the restaurant for takeout, they would deny him.

      I'm jealous of both of you. 😁

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      • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

        Speaking Thai to order Thai spicy at restaurants, and speaking various Chinese languages to get ‘a properly painful massage’, are my most important cultural things that keep me happy as an immigrant. No spicy food, no painful massage, I might as well go home

        Adrianna TanS This user is from outside of this forum
        Adrianna TanS This user is from outside of this forum
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        I was telling someone the other day that I probably burned off my capsaicin receptors since I was 7, but one time (I remember this specifically) I went to a Isaan restaurant in Isaan and ordered Isaan spicy (I find Bangkok food too sweet and not spicy). The best way I can describe that is, it was the heat equivalent of a brain freeze. My brain was on fire. My tongue was not (I don’t really.. taste spice anymore. It’s just a flavor)

        It was amazing and I want to do it again

        That was the only thing I’ve found spicy in the last 20 years

        In LA, Lacha Somtum comes close, and there is a Lao spot (Lao Garden) in Berkeley that does that

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        • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

          I was telling someone the other day that I probably burned off my capsaicin receptors since I was 7, but one time (I remember this specifically) I went to a Isaan restaurant in Isaan and ordered Isaan spicy (I find Bangkok food too sweet and not spicy). The best way I can describe that is, it was the heat equivalent of a brain freeze. My brain was on fire. My tongue was not (I don’t really.. taste spice anymore. It’s just a flavor)

          It was amazing and I want to do it again

          That was the only thing I’ve found spicy in the last 20 years

          In LA, Lacha Somtum comes close, and there is a Lao spot (Lao Garden) in Berkeley that does that

          DDRD This user is from outside of this forum
          DDRD This user is from outside of this forum
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          Oh, that sounds lovely, @skinnylatte! Adding that to my notes. 😃

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          • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

            I was telling someone the other day that I probably burned off my capsaicin receptors since I was 7, but one time (I remember this specifically) I went to a Isaan restaurant in Isaan and ordered Isaan spicy (I find Bangkok food too sweet and not spicy). The best way I can describe that is, it was the heat equivalent of a brain freeze. My brain was on fire. My tongue was not (I don’t really.. taste spice anymore. It’s just a flavor)

            It was amazing and I want to do it again

            That was the only thing I’ve found spicy in the last 20 years

            In LA, Lacha Somtum comes close, and there is a Lao spot (Lao Garden) in Berkeley that does that

            K-ZO da SnowmanK This user is from outside of this forum
            K-ZO da SnowmanK This user is from outside of this forum
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            @skinnylatte god I'm not even into spice like that and Lacha Somtum's blue crab salad was one of the best meals I've had in a long time. Like, the perfect level of spice.

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            • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

              I was telling someone the other day that I probably burned off my capsaicin receptors since I was 7, but one time (I remember this specifically) I went to a Isaan restaurant in Isaan and ordered Isaan spicy (I find Bangkok food too sweet and not spicy). The best way I can describe that is, it was the heat equivalent of a brain freeze. My brain was on fire. My tongue was not (I don’t really.. taste spice anymore. It’s just a flavor)

              It was amazing and I want to do it again

              That was the only thing I’ve found spicy in the last 20 years

              In LA, Lacha Somtum comes close, and there is a Lao spot (Lao Garden) in Berkeley that does that

              MichaelM This user is from outside of this forum
              MichaelM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @skinnylatte I know you've spent a lot of time in Indonesia. You've never had Sundanese food? It's way hotter than anything I had living 20 years in Thailand. Took some Thai managers to a Sundanese restaurant in Jakarta and made them cry.

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                @skinnylatte I know you've spent a lot of time in Indonesia. You've never had Sundanese food? It's way hotter than anything I had living 20 years in Thailand. Took some Thai managers to a Sundanese restaurant in Jakarta and made them cry.

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                @michaeljoseph I find Sundanese food very bland

                Only East Java works for me

                But I also grew up eating sambals with various Indonesian chillies so it just hits different

                For Thai, I only find northeastern and deep south Thai spicy

                Central Thai food is confusing and sweet to me

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                • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                  Speaking Thai to order Thai spicy at restaurants, and speaking various Chinese languages to get ‘a properly painful massage’, are my most important cultural things that keep me happy as an immigrant. No spicy food, no painful massage, I might as well go home

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                  @skinnylatte

                  Yeah. I remember a Korean place that included “traditional” as the highest heat level and would not give me, white boy, traditional hot on my first visit. I needed to pass the “hot” test first. I’m sure that asking in Korean would have saved me that extra step to the good stuff. It sucks being monolingual sometimes (a lot of the time).

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                  • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                    I was telling someone the other day that I probably burned off my capsaicin receptors since I was 7, but one time (I remember this specifically) I went to a Isaan restaurant in Isaan and ordered Isaan spicy (I find Bangkok food too sweet and not spicy). The best way I can describe that is, it was the heat equivalent of a brain freeze. My brain was on fire. My tongue was not (I don’t really.. taste spice anymore. It’s just a flavor)

                    It was amazing and I want to do it again

                    That was the only thing I’ve found spicy in the last 20 years

                    In LA, Lacha Somtum comes close, and there is a Lao spot (Lao Garden) in Berkeley that does that

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                    @skinnylatte that sounds absolutely glorious

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                    • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                      Speaking Thai to order Thai spicy at restaurants, and speaking various Chinese languages to get ‘a properly painful massage’, are my most important cultural things that keep me happy as an immigrant. No spicy food, no painful massage, I might as well go home

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                      @skinnylatte

                      As a white guy, I had to build up some customer reputation with a couple of Thai restaurants to get something "Thai spicy" .

                      I do not order things that way at a new restaurant, as I have to dial in their "white guy spice discount."

                      There is plenty of stuff too hot for me out there, I want a good burn, not gasping for milk.

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                      • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                        I was telling someone the other day that I probably burned off my capsaicin receptors since I was 7, but one time (I remember this specifically) I went to a Isaan restaurant in Isaan and ordered Isaan spicy (I find Bangkok food too sweet and not spicy). The best way I can describe that is, it was the heat equivalent of a brain freeze. My brain was on fire. My tongue was not (I don’t really.. taste spice anymore. It’s just a flavor)

                        It was amazing and I want to do it again

                        That was the only thing I’ve found spicy in the last 20 years

                        In LA, Lacha Somtum comes close, and there is a Lao spot (Lao Garden) in Berkeley that does that

                        The Dance CommanderM This user is from outside of this forum
                        The Dance CommanderM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @skinnylatte Thanks for the reminder that I should get some Lao takeout soon!

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                        • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                          I was telling someone the other day that I probably burned off my capsaicin receptors since I was 7, but one time (I remember this specifically) I went to a Isaan restaurant in Isaan and ordered Isaan spicy (I find Bangkok food too sweet and not spicy). The best way I can describe that is, it was the heat equivalent of a brain freeze. My brain was on fire. My tongue was not (I don’t really.. taste spice anymore. It’s just a flavor)

                          It was amazing and I want to do it again

                          That was the only thing I’ve found spicy in the last 20 years

                          In LA, Lacha Somtum comes close, and there is a Lao spot (Lao Garden) in Berkeley that does that

                          Adrianna TanS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Tried a new acupuncture spot in downtown Oakland.

                          My take on acupuncture: most people doing it don’t know what they’re doing.

                          But for muscular pain, etc, I do enjoy dry needling and acupuncture. And I try to go to sifus who graduated from the top schools in China that I know for this stuff. The sifu was like, speak Cantonese? Mandarin? I said Mandarin

                          I asked him if he knew Teochew / Chiu Chow, he said a bunch of random food things, then haha not really

                          Next question: how are you with pressure? I said, I’ve been known to be a person who enjoys it

                          He said OH THANK GOD I don’t have to do baby steps then

                          When he was done (it was very good) he said, you should get an award for ‘most likely to try every TCM modality and suffer and enjoy it and come back for more’

                          I was like

                          Yep

                          Honestly that’s the only way I still have a body

                          To be clear I wouldn’t do a lot of TCM services in places that don’t have a large local Chinese population. I think the potential for quackery and poor training is just too high (because of lack of access to good training and schools, and large overlap with ‘new age’ quackery performed by non native practitioners)

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                          • Pseudo NymP Pseudo Nym

                            @skinnylatte

                            As a white guy, I had to build up some customer reputation with a couple of Thai restaurants to get something "Thai spicy" .

                            I do not order things that way at a new restaurant, as I have to dial in their "white guy spice discount."

                            There is plenty of stuff too hot for me out there, I want a good burn, not gasping for milk.

                            Wee Mad HamishW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @pseudonym @skinnylatte used to successfully order from the one local place "actually extra spicy, not white people extra spicy". Until it really upset the gig delivery driver.
                            Then took a few months to get them to believe I still meant it with "Thai Spicy", for some reason.

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                            • Pseudo NymP Pseudo Nym

                              @skinnylatte

                              As a white guy, I had to build up some customer reputation with a couple of Thai restaurants to get something "Thai spicy" .

                              I do not order things that way at a new restaurant, as I have to dial in their "white guy spice discount."

                              There is plenty of stuff too hot for me out there, I want a good burn, not gasping for milk.

                              Christopher IseneC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @skinnylatte @pseudonym just go phet-phet when you order.

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