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AI Controls (formally 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

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  • Firefox for Web DevelopersF Firefox for Web Developers

    AI Controls (formally 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

    For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

    Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
    Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
    Ray McCarthy
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    #9

    @firefoxwebdevs
    Why not ship a version with ZERO AI?

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    • Firefox for Web DevelopersF Firefox for Web Developers

      @ArneBab "block" was picked deliberately, as it's removing all entry points to the feature, not just disabling the feature (e.g. disabled buttons are still there, but these are BLOCKED).

      It was important to show the features individually so you can control them individually. E.g. translation is something people explicitly wanted to be able to re-enable https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115849251057488746

      Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
      Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
      Ray McCarthy
      wrote last edited by
      #10

      @firefoxwebdevs @ArneBab
      No, you've lost the plot!

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      • Firefox for Web DevelopersF Firefox for Web Developers

        AI Controls (formally 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

        For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

        Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
        Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
        Ray McCarthy
        wrote last edited by
        #11

        @firefoxwebdevs
        And WHY were these "True" by default?
        Why once even re-enabled?

        Mozilla isn't trustworthy.

        The so-called ML is an invasion of privacy and a waste of computing resource.

        Go back to a Classic Firefox that's ONLY a browser and repects OS GUI look & feel instead of copying Google.

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        • Firefox for Web DevelopersF Firefox for Web Developers

          AI Controls (formally 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

          For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

          Mike Taylor 🦕M This user is from outside of this forum
          Mike Taylor 🦕M This user is from outside of this forum
          Mike Taylor 🦕
          wrote last edited by
          #12

          @firefoxwebdevs "AI is changing the web, and people want very different things from it. We’ve heard from many who want nothing to do with AI. We’ve also heard from others who want AI tools that are genuinely useful."

          Have you? Because I've literally only heard the former. See e.g. virtually every one of the 966 comments on https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/building-ai-the-firefox-way-shaping-what-s-next-together/td-p/109922

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          • Ray McCarthyR Ray McCarthy

            @firefoxwebdevs
            And WHY were these "True" by default?
            Why once even re-enabled?

            Mozilla isn't trustworthy.

            The so-called ML is an invasion of privacy and a waste of computing resource.

            Go back to a Classic Firefox that's ONLY a browser and repects OS GUI look & feel instead of copying Google.

            Firefox for Web DevelopersF This user is from outside of this forum
            Firefox for Web DevelopersF This user is from outside of this forum
            Firefox for Web Developers
            wrote last edited by
            #13

            @raymaccarthy about:config isn't intended to be for user settings. That's why we've created a dedicated AI controls page, and we're the first to do so.

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            • Firefox for Web DevelopersF Firefox for Web Developers

              AI Controls (formally 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

              For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

              TariqR This user is from outside of this forum
              TariqR This user is from outside of this forum
              Tariq
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              #14

              @firefoxwebdevs

              credit where credit is due

              I'm still going to use Librewolf as trust on telemetry and ad-partnerships is not yet restored

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              • mkjM mkj

                I know you'll likely get a whole bunch of negative feedback on Fedi for not going even further, but at least this appears to *clearly and unambiguously* put the user in control in a way that does not require digging through about:config settings and worrying about what an upgrade will do. So I am cautiously optimistic about this.

                Can you say anything about when those of us who are on the ESR update track can expect to see this? Will there be a policy setting to control this?

                @firefoxwebdevs

                Firefox for Web DevelopersF This user is from outside of this forum
                Firefox for Web DevelopersF This user is from outside of this forum
                Firefox for Web Developers
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                #15

                @mkj I don't know the answer to this off the top of my head, but I'll find out and get back to you.

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                • Firefox for Web DevelopersF Firefox for Web Developers

                  AI Controls (formally 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                  For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

                  Ted's Tech TipsT This user is from outside of this forum
                  Ted's Tech TipsT This user is from outside of this forum
                  Ted's Tech Tips
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                  #16

                  @firefoxwebdevs This is FANTASTIC! Thank you guys for listening to feedback!

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                  • Firefox for Web DevelopersF Firefox for Web Developers

                    @raymaccarthy about:config isn't intended to be for user settings. That's why we've created a dedicated AI controls page, and we're the first to do so.

                    Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
                    Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
                    Ray McCarthy
                    wrote last edited by
                    #17

                    @firefoxwebdevs
                    You are missing the point!

                    The features should not exist! So then no need for a master switch in the main settings.

                    Firefox has got so broken it needs loads of settings changed in About.config and even then is LESS USEABLE than 10 or 15 years ago.

                    I've been using Websites since 1994. Mosaic, Netscape, Firefox.

                    Of course I've used most of the others.

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                    • Firefox for Web DevelopersF Firefox for Web Developers

                      @ArneBab "block" was picked deliberately, as it's removing all entry points to the feature, not just disabling the feature (e.g. disabled buttons are still there, but these are BLOCKED).

                      It was important to show the features individually so you can control them individually. E.g. translation is something people explicitly wanted to be able to re-enable https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115849251057488746

                      ArneBabA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      ArneBab
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                      #18

                      @firefoxwebdevs so i "re-enable" stuff I want after "blocking"?

                      re-enable calls for "disable" as the other part.

                      What that "block" does is "set default to disable" and "disable all" that we all know from the law-compliant cookie-banners.

                      Or rather: "make AI opt-in".

                      Suggestion that does not feel manipulative:

                      Button [disable all] ⇒ disables all AI options.

                      Added Option: [enable future AI features by default] ← gets disabled alongside the individual options when clicking [disable all].

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                      • ArneBabA ArneBab

                        @firefoxwebdevs so i "re-enable" stuff I want after "blocking"?

                        re-enable calls for "disable" as the other part.

                        What that "block" does is "set default to disable" and "disable all" that we all know from the law-compliant cookie-banners.

                        Or rather: "make AI opt-in".

                        Suggestion that does not feel manipulative:

                        Button [disable all] ⇒ disables all AI options.

                        Added Option: [enable future AI features by default] ← gets disabled alongside the individual options when clicking [disable all].

                        Firefox for Web DevelopersF This user is from outside of this forum
                        Firefox for Web DevelopersF This user is from outside of this forum
                        Firefox for Web Developers
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                        #19

                        @ArneBab it doesn't just disable all existing feature, it also auto-disables future AI features, or 'blocks' them from even appearing in the UI.

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                        • Firefox for Web DevelopersF Firefox for Web Developers

                          AI Controls (formally 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                          For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

                          EpiphanyWaxW This user is from outside of this forum
                          EpiphanyWaxW This user is from outside of this forum
                          EpiphanyWax
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                          #20

                          @firefoxwebdevs Too little. Too late.

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                          • Firefox for Web DevelopersF Firefox for Web Developers

                            AI Controls (formally 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                            For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

                            George Liquor, AmericanL This user is from outside of this forum
                            George Liquor, AmericanL This user is from outside of this forum
                            George Liquor, American
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                            @firefoxwebdevs This is so sad to watch.

                            Y'all need to pause and reflect on *why* the vast majority of your loyal user base wants nothing to do with your AI slop "features."

                            It's bad business. If you have to develop a kill switch for a whole class of feature because it's so toxic, maybe the need for a kill switch isn't the actual issue. Yeah?

                            Come on, we all know you're not this oblivious. Stop lying to yourselves and us.

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