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If the executive branch can issue "warrants" why not the legislative branch too?

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  • myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
    myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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    If the executive branch can issue "warrants" why not the legislative branch too?

    Could a member of congress draft a "Congressional Warrant" and then go into anyone's house and search for things? For example search for say... missing files?

    If you don't need a judge to break down doors just paperwork with the word "warrant" at the top, it seems many things should be possible.

    Дими́трийS Annelies Kamran, Ph.D.A Alan BucknamB Phil Thane ✅P not obscene, just deeply concerningA 9 Replies Last reply
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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      If the executive branch can issue "warrants" why not the legislative branch too?

      Could a member of congress draft a "Congressional Warrant" and then go into anyone's house and search for things? For example search for say... missing files?

      If you don't need a judge to break down doors just paperwork with the word "warrant" at the top, it seems many things should be possible.

      Дими́трийS This user is from outside of this forum
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      Дими́трий
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      @futurebird

      fight fire with fire? sure! slippery slope? maybe, who cares at this point? I'm all for it, but last time I checked, congress doesn't have a police force. that's probably gonna hafta be on us.

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        If the executive branch can issue "warrants" why not the legislative branch too?

        Could a member of congress draft a "Congressional Warrant" and then go into anyone's house and search for things? For example search for say... missing files?

        If you don't need a judge to break down doors just paperwork with the word "warrant" at the top, it seems many things should be possible.

        Annelies Kamran, Ph.D.A This user is from outside of this forum
        Annelies Kamran, Ph.D.A This user is from outside of this forum
        Annelies Kamran, Ph.D.
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        @futurebird if the only part of the magic spell being cast is the word "warrant" then I don't see why warrants issued by the Culinary Institute of America (to take a random organization with an amusing acronym) wouldn't also be considered binding.

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          If the executive branch can issue "warrants" why not the legislative branch too?

          Could a member of congress draft a "Congressional Warrant" and then go into anyone's house and search for things? For example search for say... missing files?

          If you don't need a judge to break down doors just paperwork with the word "warrant" at the top, it seems many things should be possible.

          Alan BucknamB This user is from outside of this forum
          Alan BucknamB This user is from outside of this forum
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          @futurebird Congress could do something like that using the Contempt of Congress power: “The inherent contempt power is a constitutionally based authority given to each house to unilaterally arrest and detain an individual found to be "obstruct[ing] the performance of the duties of the legislature." 1/2

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          • Alan BucknamB Alan Bucknam

            @futurebird Congress could do something like that using the Contempt of Congress power: “The inherent contempt power is a constitutionally based authority given to each house to unilaterally arrest and detain an individual found to be "obstruct[ing] the performance of the duties of the legislature." 1/2

            Alan BucknamB This user is from outside of this forum
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            @futurebird “The power is therefore broader in scope than the criminal contempt statute in that it may be used not only to combat subpoena non-compliance, but also in response to other actions that could be viewed as "obstructing" or threatening either house's exercise of its legislative powers.”

            So they could arrest the president, I am thinking. https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R45653

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              If the executive branch can issue "warrants" why not the legislative branch too?

              Could a member of congress draft a "Congressional Warrant" and then go into anyone's house and search for things? For example search for say... missing files?

              If you don't need a judge to break down doors just paperwork with the word "warrant" at the top, it seems many things should be possible.

              Phil Thane ✅P This user is from outside of this forum
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              @futurebird
              It's probably every bit as valid as those Trumpist warrants but you'll need a private army to enforce it. Good luck.

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                If the executive branch can issue "warrants" why not the legislative branch too?

                Could a member of congress draft a "Congressional Warrant" and then go into anyone's house and search for things? For example search for say... missing files?

                If you don't need a judge to break down doors just paperwork with the word "warrant" at the top, it seems many things should be possible.

                not obscene, just deeply concerningA This user is from outside of this forum
                not obscene, just deeply concerningA This user is from outside of this forum
                not obscene, just deeply concerning
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                @futurebird i think they should do this, but not as a stunt

                like actually barge in there with an armed escort on the authority of it
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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  If the executive branch can issue "warrants" why not the legislative branch too?

                  Could a member of congress draft a "Congressional Warrant" and then go into anyone's house and search for things? For example search for say... missing files?

                  If you don't need a judge to break down doors just paperwork with the word "warrant" at the top, it seems many things should be possible.

                  KanaMaunaK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @futurebird

                  Good idea except for that one little detail about control of both houses. Next time somebody says voting doesn’t matter, slap them in the face.

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    If the executive branch can issue "warrants" why not the legislative branch too?

                    Could a member of congress draft a "Congressional Warrant" and then go into anyone's house and search for things? For example search for say... missing files?

                    If you don't need a judge to break down doors just paperwork with the word "warrant" at the top, it seems many things should be possible.

                    der.hansL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @futurebird Is having an 80s hair band guitarist with you sufficient for kicking in a door and kidnapping people?

                    Well, guitarists other than Danzig tend to be pretty skinny, so you might need the drummer to actually kick the door in

                    #WarrantIsABand

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      If the executive branch can issue "warrants" why not the legislative branch too?

                      Could a member of congress draft a "Congressional Warrant" and then go into anyone's house and search for things? For example search for say... missing files?

                      If you don't need a judge to break down doors just paperwork with the word "warrant" at the top, it seems many things should be possible.

                      SouprMattM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @futurebird For many years, Congress and the courts have given way too much power to the Executive branch. Administrative warrants shouldn’t exist, period.

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                      • Alan BucknamB Alan Bucknam

                        @futurebird Congress could do something like that using the Contempt of Congress power: “The inherent contempt power is a constitutionally based authority given to each house to unilaterally arrest and detain an individual found to be "obstruct[ing] the performance of the duties of the legislature." 1/2

                        jcrieckeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @bucknam congress had the opportunity to do that in the first trump admin when various officials ignored subpoenas but they chickened out.

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                        • jcrieckeJ jcriecke

                          @bucknam congress had the opportunity to do that in the first trump admin when various officials ignored subpoenas but they chickened out.

                          Alan BucknamB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @jcriecke would be nice to at least see our elected officials try. But of course they won’t.

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                          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                            If the executive branch can issue "warrants" why not the legislative branch too?

                            Could a member of congress draft a "Congressional Warrant" and then go into anyone's house and search for things? For example search for say... missing files?

                            If you don't need a judge to break down doors just paperwork with the word "warrant" at the top, it seems many things should be possible.

                            7leaguebootdisk𓅽7 This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @futurebird the majority party is needed to issue them, but they certainly can, and can lock people up until they comply.

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