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  3. I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

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  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

    I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

    It's Waitangi Day here, and I'm looking forward to learning a lot about Māori culture and seeing some geysers today. I'm going to try to lean in to the stunning natural beauty of the land I'm on today and the Indigenous knowledge that goes with it.

    NeilG This user is from outside of this forum
    NeilG This user is from outside of this forum
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    @sundogplanets Did something happen? Not that the current levels of satellite pollution don't already qualify as a disaster....

    EDIT perhaps it's this https://www.space.com/space-exploration/launches-spacecraft/russian-inspector-satellite-appears-to-break-apart-in-orbit-raising-debris-concerns

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    • Matt BlazeM Matt Blaze

      @sundogplanets "Move fast and break things" should not be literally applied to satellites.

      MacCruiskeenM This user is from outside of this forum
      MacCruiskeenM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mattblaze @sundogplanets Well, they do move fast. But they should not break things.

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      • WTLW WTL

        @sundogplanets Disaster in orbit?! <checks news>

        mkjM This user is from outside of this forum
        mkjM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @WTL Did you find anything? Because I don't. I'm finding a Starlink on-orbit explosion in December and the Luch/Olymp breakup in graveyard orbit a week ago, but nothing today.

        @sundogplanets a link or at least something specific would be very helpful! As bad as the SpaceX million satellites thing is, I fail to see how that is "today". Am I (and others, evidently) reading this too literally?

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        • mkjM mkj

          @WTL Did you find anything? Because I don't. I'm finding a Starlink on-orbit explosion in December and the Luch/Olymp breakup in graveyard orbit a week ago, but nothing today.

          @sundogplanets a link or at least something specific would be very helpful! As bad as the SpaceX million satellites thing is, I fail to see how that is "today". Am I (and others, evidently) reading this too literally?

          WTLW This user is from outside of this forum
          WTLW This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mkj I didn't see anything either. Perhaps @sundogplanets meant the disaster is the approval of 4000 more satellites today: https://www.engadget.com/science/space/a-potential-starlink-competitor-just-got-fcc-clearance-to-launch-4000-satellites-143905076.html

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          • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

            I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

            It's Waitangi Day here, and I'm looking forward to learning a lot about Māori culture and seeing some geysers today. I'm going to try to lean in to the stunning natural beauty of the land I'm on today and the Indigenous knowledge that goes with it.

            zompusZ This user is from outside of this forum
            zompusZ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @sundogplanets It's bizarre to me to think that orbital data centers will be cheaper than ground-based ones, with having to power and cool them.

            Michael KohneM Emma needs ☕️ and paying workE Dave RahardjaD Ray McCarthyR 4 Replies Last reply
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            • zompusZ zompus

              @sundogplanets It's bizarre to me to think that orbital data centers will be cheaper than ground-based ones, with having to power and cool them.

              Michael KohneM This user is from outside of this forum
              Michael KohneM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @zompus @sundogplanets They aren't. The physics of heat doesn't work out, nor is there much in the way of rad hard compute that you could put in orbit. Like much of what Musk talks about, the orbital data centers thing is bullshit, not a real thing.

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              • zompusZ zompus

                @sundogplanets It's bizarre to me to think that orbital data centers will be cheaper than ground-based ones, with having to power and cool them.

                Emma needs ☕️ and paying workE This user is from outside of this forum
                Emma needs ☕️ and paying workE This user is from outside of this forum
                Emma needs ☕️ and paying work
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                @zompus @sundogplanets I think Elon tipped his hand when he said he wants a rail gun on the Moon to "launch data centers."

                This was never about data centers. It's about extortion.

                And between Trump, Cosplay Astronaut, and the Jesus Freak running DoD, they'll give it to him.

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                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                  I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

                  It's Waitangi Day here, and I'm looking forward to learning a lot about Māori culture and seeing some geysers today. I'm going to try to lean in to the stunning natural beauty of the land I'm on today and the Indigenous knowledge that goes with it.

                  Matt ChambersI This user is from outside of this forum
                  Matt ChambersI This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @sundogplanets hang in there. You're doing great work.

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                  • Michael KohneM Michael Kohne

                    @zompus @sundogplanets They aren't. The physics of heat doesn't work out, nor is there much in the way of rad hard compute that you could put in orbit. Like much of what Musk talks about, the orbital data centers thing is bullshit, not a real thing.

                    zompusZ This user is from outside of this forum
                    zompusZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @mhkohne @sundogplanets My work involves both solar panels and HVAC, and I'm imagining the cost of launching enough power generation and cooling to run even one server rack. It's a grift all the way down.

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                    • zompusZ zompus

                      @sundogplanets It's bizarre to me to think that orbital data centers will be cheaper than ground-based ones, with having to power and cool them.

                      Dave RahardjaD This user is from outside of this forum
                      Dave RahardjaD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @zompus @sundogplanets They won’t be. Elon is purposely conflating AI and space tech to suckle on the teat of taxpayer subsidies to keep running his abuse machine.

                      https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116004691492642854

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                      • Dave RahardjaD Dave Rahardja

                        @zompus @sundogplanets They won’t be. Elon is purposely conflating AI and space tech to suckle on the teat of taxpayer subsidies to keep running his abuse machine.

                        https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116004691492642854

                        zompusZ This user is from outside of this forum
                        zompusZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @drahardja @sundogplanets I know somebody who works at NASA, and they went on a long rant to me about how SpaceX people didn't know how to do any space operations, so they got free tours and consulting from NASA people, and then came back and took all their jobs.

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                        • zompusZ zompus

                          @drahardja @sundogplanets I know somebody who works at NASA, and they went on a long rant to me about how SpaceX people didn't know how to do any space operations, so they got free tours and consulting from NASA people, and then came back and took all their jobs.

                          Dave RahardjaD This user is from outside of this forum
                          Dave RahardjaD This user is from outside of this forum
                          Dave Rahardja
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                          @zompus @sundogplanets The existence of SpaceX is a policy choice. And it’s a bad one.

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                          • mkjM mkj

                            @WTL Did you find anything? Because I don't. I'm finding a Starlink on-orbit explosion in December and the Luch/Olymp breakup in graveyard orbit a week ago, but nothing today.

                            @sundogplanets a link or at least something specific would be very helpful! As bad as the SpaceX million satellites thing is, I fail to see how that is "today". Am I (and others, evidently) reading this too literally?

                            Barry RowlingsonG This user is from outside of this forum
                            Barry RowlingsonG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @mkj @WTL @sundogplanets A Falcon 9 2nd stage failed its de-orbit burn so came back in uncontrolled. somewhere. https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/04/spacex_halts_falcon_9_flights/

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                            • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                              I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

                              It's Waitangi Day here, and I'm looking forward to learning a lot about Māori culture and seeing some geysers today. I'm going to try to lean in to the stunning natural beauty of the land I'm on today and the Indigenous knowledge that goes with it.

                              Hank G ☑️H This user is from outside of this forum
                              Hank G ☑️H This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @sundogplanets While I've always been pissed about how cavalier Musk, Bezos, and others have been with the space junk problem they are creating with these mega constellations this push for *one million* satellites and data centers in space has me even more so. This week the analogy it had me thinking about was the industrial wastelands Robber Barons and industrialists of the first Gilded Age created. We look back and think, "How could they have done that and how could everyone have let that happen?" Meanwhile they are doing it again but up in space, and even down here with their unquenchable thirst for resources to feed their new AI machines. It's just so frustrating that humans can't learn from the past but must go through all the same mistakes over and over again.
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                              • zompusZ zompus

                                @mhkohne @sundogplanets My work involves both solar panels and HVAC, and I'm imagining the cost of launching enough power generation and cooling to run even one server rack. It's a grift all the way down.

                                SolithaS This user is from outside of this forum
                                SolithaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @zompus @mhkohne SpaceX bought xAI and is going IPO this year.

                                Elon's spouting his typical empty promises to generate investor hype. It's pretty much all he's ever done.

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                                • Dave RahardjaD Dave Rahardja

                                  @zompus @sundogplanets They won’t be. Elon is purposely conflating AI and space tech to suckle on the teat of taxpayer subsidies to keep running his abuse machine.

                                  https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116004691492642854

                                  Nicole ParsonsN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Nicole ParsonsN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Nicole Parsons
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                                  @drahardja @zompus @sundogplanets

                                  Like The Moneyed of Eisenhower's era, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel & Larry Ellison know that vast wealth comes from attaching themselves to taxpayer-funded military contracts

                                  It lets politicians reward their donors in secret

                                  Pay-to-play for Silicon Valley moguls gearing up for world war

                                  https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5612954-trump-f35-saudi-arabia-deal/

                                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

                                  https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-f-35-sale-saudi-arabia-threatens-antagonize-israel-11063802

                                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2025/11/19/heres-everyone-who-attended-trumps-black-tie-dinner-with-saudis-prime-minister-photos/

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/13/us/politics/trump-saudi-fighter-jets.html

                                  https://responsiblestatecraft.org/trump-saudi-deal/

                                  https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/fastthinking/digging-into-the-details-of-the-us-saudi-deals/

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                                  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                    I'm really feeling seriously depressed about the disaster in orbit today, I already had a couple of meetings and a flurry of emails about the fucking awful SpaceX million satellite filing.

                                    It's Waitangi Day here, and I'm looking forward to learning a lot about Māori culture and seeing some geysers today. I'm going to try to lean in to the stunning natural beauty of the land I'm on today and the Indigenous knowledge that goes with it.

                                    @iveylineI This user is from outside of this forum
                                    @iveylineI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @sundogplanets Enjoy our downunder experience.

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                                    • zompusZ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      zompusZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @thedarknite @emma @sundogplanets Like the time Zuckerberg read Snow Crash and then threw his entire company behind "Metaverse"

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                                      • zompusZ zompus

                                        @sundogplanets It's bizarre to me to think that orbital data centers will be cheaper than ground-based ones, with having to power and cool them.

                                        Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @zompus @sundogplanets
                                        The Solar electricity isn't that much better than many places on Earth, panels are cheap, launch expensive.

                                        The Datacentres in space can't be cooled. No convection or water.

                                        They can't be serviced.

                                        Space electronics uses different chips to datacentres and they can't be shielded.

                                        It's fantasy

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                                        • zompusZ zompus

                                          @mhkohne @sundogplanets My work involves both solar panels and HVAC, and I'm imagining the cost of launching enough power generation and cooling to run even one server rack. It's a grift all the way down.

                                          SomeVeganCheeseIsOkS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @zompus @mhkohne @sundogplanets I mean. Basically that's what satellites already are. Lil special purpose compute systems run by solar panels in space. "Data centers in spaaaaaaace" is just generalizing the specific parts of it. And it's EPICLY stupid, those fuckers need to spin to dump waste heat. It would be cheaper to solve the vibration problem and stuff data centers under every Walmart parking lot.

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