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  • George DinwiddieG This user is from outside of this forum
    George DinwiddieG This user is from outside of this forum
    George Dinwiddie
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    A good perspective to keep in mind.

    Karl AuerbachK FaraiweF hannah aubryH Benjamin_KenobiB 🇩🇰Blue.  Zelensky.M 8 Replies Last reply
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    • George DinwiddieG George Dinwiddie

      A good perspective to keep in mind.

      Karl AuerbachK This user is from outside of this forum
      Karl AuerbachK This user is from outside of this forum
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      @gdinwiddie It bothered me, and still bothers me, that SCOTUS has gone into hyper originalist mode in which the history or the US is measured by practices of the thirteen colonies.

      SCOTUS and others tend to forget that the vast geographic, and population, bulk of the US is on lands obtained from France, Spain, Mexico, Russia, and the Dole Pineapple company (and others).

      My own place, like many places, was originally held by aboriginal groups, then Spain, then Mexico. English was certainly not the first language here, and it is barely the dominant language spoken here now

      (Same for laws - SCOTUS in the Heller case kinda overlooked the firearms practices and laws that held in that vast part of the US that is not part of the thirteen colonies.)

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      • George DinwiddieG George Dinwiddie

        A good perspective to keep in mind.

        FaraiweF This user is from outside of this forum
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        @gdinwiddie ::stands up, applauds::

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        • George DinwiddieG George Dinwiddie

          A good perspective to keep in mind.

          hannah aubryH This user is from outside of this forum
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          @gdinwiddie benito ❤

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          • George DinwiddieG George Dinwiddie

            A good perspective to keep in mind.

            Benjamin_KenobiB This user is from outside of this forum
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            @gdinwiddie Spanish of course being an indigenous lanugage of the Americas.

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            • Benjamin_KenobiB Benjamin_Kenobi

              @gdinwiddie Spanish of course being an indigenous lanugage of the Americas.

              George DinwiddieG This user is from outside of this forum
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              @benjamin_kenobi No, I think Spanish was also introduced by Europeans.

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              • George DinwiddieG George Dinwiddie

                @benjamin_kenobi No, I think Spanish was also introduced by Europeans.

                Benjamin_KenobiB This user is from outside of this forum
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                @gdinwiddie I am sorry. My sarcasm wasn't clear.

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                • Karl AuerbachK Karl Auerbach

                  @gdinwiddie It bothered me, and still bothers me, that SCOTUS has gone into hyper originalist mode in which the history or the US is measured by practices of the thirteen colonies.

                  SCOTUS and others tend to forget that the vast geographic, and population, bulk of the US is on lands obtained from France, Spain, Mexico, Russia, and the Dole Pineapple company (and others).

                  My own place, like many places, was originally held by aboriginal groups, then Spain, then Mexico. English was certainly not the first language here, and it is barely the dominant language spoken here now

                  (Same for laws - SCOTUS in the Heller case kinda overlooked the firearms practices and laws that held in that vast part of the US that is not part of the thirteen colonies.)

                  Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                  Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @karlauerbach @gdinwiddie

                  and the Dole Pineapple company


                  One of these things is not like the others ✨

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                  • George DinwiddieG George Dinwiddie

                    A good perspective to keep in mind.

                    🇩🇰Blue.  Zelensky.M This user is from outside of this forum
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                    🇩🇰Blue. Zelensky.
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                    @gdinwiddie And he’s able to get elected president as a US born citizen. Not that I think he should. You already had an actor and a reality “star”. Didn’t work quite right. BUT..,

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                    • Karl AuerbachK Karl Auerbach

                      @gdinwiddie It bothered me, and still bothers me, that SCOTUS has gone into hyper originalist mode in which the history or the US is measured by practices of the thirteen colonies.

                      SCOTUS and others tend to forget that the vast geographic, and population, bulk of the US is on lands obtained from France, Spain, Mexico, Russia, and the Dole Pineapple company (and others).

                      My own place, like many places, was originally held by aboriginal groups, then Spain, then Mexico. English was certainly not the first language here, and it is barely the dominant language spoken here now

                      (Same for laws - SCOTUS in the Heller case kinda overlooked the firearms practices and laws that held in that vast part of the US that is not part of the thirteen colonies.)

                      A_MinionA This user is from outside of this forum
                      A_MinionA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @karlauerbach @gdinwiddie
                      Yeah, it's like the founders never put anything in the constitution that would provide for change. Firearms I think of "Federalist 29" Where Hamilton lays out just what the debate was about and SCOTUS just couldn't quite comprehend what was being said or that there were any rules/laws governing who was allowed to own weapons.

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                      • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís

                        @karlauerbach @gdinwiddie

                        and the Dole Pineapple company


                        One of these things is not like the others ✨

                        Patrick Morris MillerK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @csolisr @karlauerbach @gdinwiddie If companies can be people, why can't they be countries too?

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                        • George DinwiddieG George Dinwiddie

                          A good perspective to keep in mind.

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                          @gdinwiddie i really dont like this guy, but... sigh, he's so right for this lol

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                          • Patrick Morris MillerK Patrick Morris Miller

                            @csolisr @karlauerbach @gdinwiddie If companies can be people, why can't they be countries too?

                            Karl AuerbachK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @kentenmakto @csolisr @gdinwiddie You ask a really good question.

                            The peace of Westphalia - circa 1645 - established the idea of sovereign nations with geographic boundaries. That has been the norm until roughly 1945 with the rise of multi-national corporations and even more since the rise of the Internet and corporations such as ICANN.

                            Basically geographic borders to countries are fading and eroding. The powers are not vanishing, they are just flowing into different hands, often private hands that are not accountable via Constitutions or even national laws.

                            Some governments are increasing aware of this diminishment of their authority and ability to protect their citizens or to exert control.

                            As in the old Chinese curse, "May you live in interesting times" - we do live in interesting times.

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                            • George DinwiddieG George Dinwiddie

                              A good perspective to keep in mind.

                              GarrettH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @gdinwiddie Do you have a source for this quote? I can't find one anywhere.

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                              • George DinwiddieG George Dinwiddie

                                A good perspective to keep in mind.

                                javensbukanJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @gdinwiddie This applies to Canada too ICYMI. 💯

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