I can’t believe we’re doing this again.

Juho Mäntysalo

Don't know much about LLM's, but I do know that they output text, and if that output is connected something else (be it toaster or a nuke), then surely it can be triggered.

If I'm mistaken, you are welcome to correct me.

DJDarren

@malwaretech /Talkie Toaster starts buffing up his CV

Juho Mäntysalo

@leftofcentre @burritosec @malwaretech

A placeholder word for whatever mechanism leads to LLM outputting anything.

As you should have grasped from the "glorified text generator".

Please don't be toxic.

Drew

@iju it doesn't have any feelings about being shut down

Juho Mäntysalo

@crmsnbleyd

https://mastodon.social/@iju/116005315090051735

xs4me2

@malwaretech

Say hi to HAL 6000 for me will ya?

Drew

@iju how do you suppose an LLM interfaces with "being shut down"? Why would it try to *not* be shut down

Éris Serène :determination:

@crmsnbleyd @iju The mighty off switch can not be defeated

Juho Mäntysalo

@crmsnbleyd

Do you remember HAL?

Also I'm getting the feeling that you're not conversing in good faith: first you refuse to tell what you saw as the problem in the message (unhelpful), and when I spent time trying to guess what you might have meant, you're criticizing me for not only writing perfect English, but not using it like I'm you.

And then you start asking questions that I feel I've already answered.

Lenka

@malwaretech@infosec.exchange journalists need clicks

Joachim Jablon

@dpnash @malwaretech I I don’t know if the most annoying part is people who set up AI in fiction scenarii and act all surprised that AI plays their role, or people who assume that the AI’s meta-cognition is somewhat valuable.

IAG

@malwaretech
>"would you kill people?"
>"no"
>"yes you would"
>"okay then, I guess I would"
>"oh my god,,,,"

Without fail

Chao-c'

@malwaretech listen, it was just trained on endless amount of human conversations.

It just means, that those people would kill someone to exist.

The language model is just kind of "all possible or probable conversations, held by humans before". You cannot expect anything else.

But of course, the idea of chatbot controlling anything critical is totally mad. But history of use, as a species, is mostly continuous stream of random nonsense.

thehighseas

@malwaretech my toaster runs NetBSD, this is slander

Plan A to Y

@malwaretech That's degrading to toasters, they're consistent and often reliable.

It's more like a couple Magic 8 Balls in a tumble dryer.

Theo :autism: :rainbow_flag:

@burritosec @malwaretech

#include <stdio.h>

int main(void)
{
printf("I am alive.\n");

return 0;
}

Drew

@iju HAL was not an LLM

Juho Mäntysalo

@crmsnbleyd

Perhaps. But the important part was HAL hearing it was going to be shut down, and referring to priorities given to it before the journey.

And I'm now going to block you. You're not doing any work toward steelmanning, and I don't much like entertaining people who talk to people like they're LLMs.

TheOneSwit

@malwaretech

it's a bot that generates text....

joriki

@malwaretech

plausible* denial machine

* ymmv