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  3. It really yucks my ick when people describe the #fediverse as "algorithm free".

It really yucks my ick when people describe the #fediverse as "algorithm free".

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  • Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L This user is from outside of this forum
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    Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷
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    It really yucks my ick when people describe the #fediverse as "algorithm free".

    Sorting your (filtered) feed in reverse chronological order is VERY MUCH an algorithm. (Supported by thousands more under the hood.)

    Algorithm is a GOOD word. Algorithms help us process and make sense of vast amounts of data. If anything I want more sophisticated ones.

    The problem with those on other platforms is that they're optimized to exploit and predate on us and not under our control.

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    • Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷

      It really yucks my ick when people describe the #fediverse as "algorithm free".

      Sorting your (filtered) feed in reverse chronological order is VERY MUCH an algorithm. (Supported by thousands more under the hood.)

      Algorithm is a GOOD word. Algorithms help us process and make sense of vast amounts of data. If anything I want more sophisticated ones.

      The problem with those on other platforms is that they're optimized to exploit and predate on us and not under our control.

      Daniël Franke :panheart:A This user is from outside of this forum
      Daniël Franke :panheart:A This user is from outside of this forum
      Daniël Franke :panheart:
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      @larsmb Welcome to the world where words start to take a totally different meaning than the original... 😛  But on a more serious note, people do tend to have a negative understanding of the world algorithm these days, and it's hard to fight the meaning that the majority gives to a word.

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      • Daniël Franke :panheart:A Daniël Franke :panheart:

        @larsmb Welcome to the world where words start to take a totally different meaning than the original... 😛  But on a more serious note, people do tend to have a negative understanding of the world algorithm these days, and it's hard to fight the meaning that the majority gives to a word.

        Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L This user is from outside of this forum
        Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ainmosni Yes, but I also think many people have very little understanding of it at all.

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        • Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷

          @ainmosni Yes, but I also think many people have very little understanding of it at all.

          Daniël Franke :panheart:A This user is from outside of this forum
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          @larsmb That never stopped people before…

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          • Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷

            It really yucks my ick when people describe the #fediverse as "algorithm free".

            Sorting your (filtered) feed in reverse chronological order is VERY MUCH an algorithm. (Supported by thousands more under the hood.)

            Algorithm is a GOOD word. Algorithms help us process and make sense of vast amounts of data. If anything I want more sophisticated ones.

            The problem with those on other platforms is that they're optimized to exploit and predate on us and not under our control.

            scyS This user is from outside of this forum
            scyS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @larsmb The number of algorithms required just to view one singular post 🤯

            And I'm not even talking about networking or encryption. Font rendering alone! Text wrapping. The rasterization of the SVG emoji in your username. Your profile picture's JPEG …

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            • Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷

              It really yucks my ick when people describe the #fediverse as "algorithm free".

              Sorting your (filtered) feed in reverse chronological order is VERY MUCH an algorithm. (Supported by thousands more under the hood.)

              Algorithm is a GOOD word. Algorithms help us process and make sense of vast amounts of data. If anything I want more sophisticated ones.

              The problem with those on other platforms is that they're optimized to exploit and predate on us and not under our control.

              User01U This user is from outside of this forum
              User01U This user is from outside of this forum
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              @larsmb

              Is there better language to differentiate this concept?

              Do we need a values framework for discussing algorithms?

              #surveillance
              #attentioneconomy
              #privacy

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              • Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷

                It really yucks my ick when people describe the #fediverse as "algorithm free".

                Sorting your (filtered) feed in reverse chronological order is VERY MUCH an algorithm. (Supported by thousands more under the hood.)

                Algorithm is a GOOD word. Algorithms help us process and make sense of vast amounts of data. If anything I want more sophisticated ones.

                The problem with those on other platforms is that they're optimized to exploit and predate on us and not under our control.

                william.maggosW This user is from outside of this forum
                william.maggosW This user is from outside of this forum
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                @larsmb

                what term would you prefer we use?

                "I want LIFO social media without ads" ?

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