Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means.

@Tutanota how about "content moderation by humans"? Seems important to me when it comes to any platform/software, where harassment could happen.

@Tutanota Hear, hear!

@Tutanota true! And maybe also: Properly trained human community managers, moderation teams, dispute resolution perssonel, ... ?

@Pouakai @Tutanota Yes, if you wanted to avoid credential stuffing attacks (i.e. taking the password from that poorly secured forum you were a member of to open your email account and pretty much everything else connected to you) a password manager has already been necessary for many years.

@Tutanota this way of thinking should become mainstream, but unfortunately we are far behind that in public debates.

@Tutanota

You missed the most important one.

A safe internet require distributed and transparent ownership, not tight control by secretive for-profit companies.

Without that, none of the rest matters.

@Tutanota
You need to update your graphic with giving ai agents your passwords.

@Tutanota Without tracking and data collection recommendation algorithms would not work. And that's safer. Yes.

@Tutanota The graphic is correct for email. The Internet is more than just email.

@gonun13 @Tutanota

This what you think is also an attack on my liberty to get legal available NSFW stuff. And on the safety on jung people will be worse with age verification than else. You have to get safe NSFW stuff than disallowing that completely.

@Tutanota and moderation for public communities, 4chan isnt exactly safe

@irisnk@dorm.social @Tutanota@mastodon.social yumy ..

@Tutanota short slogans are nice for marketing.

The Internet is not safer for victims of harassment, when the attackers enjoy anonymity and no accountability because of it.

Platforms can't abide by laws, if they can't figure out if their users are legally (of age) visiting.

Brevity isn't winning any arguments.

@Tutanota
Safe internet or surveillance internet?
The choice is ours, unless governments take it away.

@Tutanota Does your solution support open standards like POP/IMAP, allowing the end users to encrypt/decrypt/verify their messages EXTERNALLY? If it does not, please stop using the word "safe" and the name of your product in the same sentence.

@xela @Tutanota

Yes that is very important but you have to get supported by Sorting and showing important content that has to be moderated. So you have to use as Mod some tools to sort that content and Moderate that content in a propper way. Floods of Content could be worse to handle if it is too much for one Person. So you have to get Tools to Rank the Worst Post to the Top and less worse to the bottom if you handle really lots of Content. That is possible to get and will help to Mod Content.

@dynom @Tutanota

this laws you are referencing are the problem of unsafe acting on that harassment and victims you are referencing to. This laws will get it worse on victims because of stigmata on that topic. You have to reform that law before you could get victims safer. You have to get safer NSFW stuff before you kick out the really bad stuff. To ban everything that does not suit you is double standard.

@Tutanota
I’ve been using unique 20-char random passwords for at least five years. Occasionally, I’ve run into a site where the limit is lower, and then I’ve thought a bit about whether I really need an account at such a poorly coded site. Nope!

@Chris2000SP sure, totally agree, moderation needs tools. But humans must have "the last say".
Anyway, why I mentioned moderation here was, because it's not mentioned at all in the info graphic for a safer web - and I think, it should be there. @Tutanota

@xela @Tutanota
of course humans must have the last say! I will not tolerate a Moderation that force overblocking.