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  3. As much as I agree that Europe needs to break the power of Big Tech, Durov actually has a point.

As much as I agree that Europe needs to break the power of Big Tech, Durov actually has a point.

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  • Guido StevensG This user is from outside of this forum
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    As much as I agree that Europe needs to break the power of Big Tech, Durov actually has a point.

    Mandatory age checks will be the end of the open web.

    “But the children…” is always the rhetorical device of choice to justify more surveillance. Meanwhile a pedo ring rules the world, with plaintext emails, without facing consequences.

    If the EU is serious about confronting Big Tech, it should abolish anti-circumvention laws, as @pluralistic argues. Invest in open source, instead of wiring massive sums to Microsoft every month. And tax billionaires out of existence forchrissake.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/05/spain-hits-back-at-pavel-durov-over-mass-telegram-post-on-social-media-ban-plan?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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    • Guido StevensG Guido Stevens

      As much as I agree that Europe needs to break the power of Big Tech, Durov actually has a point.

      Mandatory age checks will be the end of the open web.

      “But the children…” is always the rhetorical device of choice to justify more surveillance. Meanwhile a pedo ring rules the world, with plaintext emails, without facing consequences.

      If the EU is serious about confronting Big Tech, it should abolish anti-circumvention laws, as @pluralistic argues. Invest in open source, instead of wiring massive sums to Microsoft every month. And tax billionaires out of existence forchrissake.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/05/spain-hits-back-at-pavel-durov-over-mass-telegram-post-on-social-media-ban-plan?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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      @pluralistic @guidostevens Given the recent document drop about how the social media giants deliberately targeted kids & teens to get them addicted to their services, maybe go after the problem, which is the social media giants.

      https://techoversight.org/2026/01/25/top-report-mdl-jan-25/

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      • Guido StevensG Guido Stevens

        As much as I agree that Europe needs to break the power of Big Tech, Durov actually has a point.

        Mandatory age checks will be the end of the open web.

        “But the children…” is always the rhetorical device of choice to justify more surveillance. Meanwhile a pedo ring rules the world, with plaintext emails, without facing consequences.

        If the EU is serious about confronting Big Tech, it should abolish anti-circumvention laws, as @pluralistic argues. Invest in open source, instead of wiring massive sums to Microsoft every month. And tax billionaires out of existence forchrissake.

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/05/spain-hits-back-at-pavel-durov-over-mass-telegram-post-on-social-media-ban-plan?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

        divVerentD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @guidostevens@kolektiva.social @pluralistic@mamot.fr Precisely. Big Tech can afford implementing whatever it takes for the age checks. But every small web forum will be banned by this, as none of them can afford the tech for this.
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        • Guido StevensG Guido Stevens

          As much as I agree that Europe needs to break the power of Big Tech, Durov actually has a point.

          Mandatory age checks will be the end of the open web.

          “But the children…” is always the rhetorical device of choice to justify more surveillance. Meanwhile a pedo ring rules the world, with plaintext emails, without facing consequences.

          If the EU is serious about confronting Big Tech, it should abolish anti-circumvention laws, as @pluralistic argues. Invest in open source, instead of wiring massive sums to Microsoft every month. And tax billionaires out of existence forchrissake.

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/05/spain-hits-back-at-pavel-durov-over-mass-telegram-post-on-social-media-ban-plan?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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          @guidostevens on a slightly different topic, but from the same story:

          "The allegations underlying today’s raid are baseless and X categorically denies any wrongdoing"

          So that whole sexual abuse image generation stuff never happened? Or it wasn't wrongdoing?

          Gaslighting or the worse choice?

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