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  3. I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed.

I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed.

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  • Brad MacphersonB Brad Macpherson

    @inthehands They came close with that gun nut getting murdered on stage, but didn't quite get their Horst Wessel moment. That's what they're gunning for.

    I wonder what their Reichstag Fire will be?

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    @brad

    They milked Kirk for all they could, but the problem was he was murdered by a fellow right-winger, and he wasn’t a federal official. That doesn’t create enough political and popular support to allow martial law or similar.

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    • wrosecransW wrosecrans

      @inthehands One of the scary things is that a bunch of the ICE goons are absolutely True Believers in their mission, and they have already convinced themselves they are going up against the worst of the worst. So they'd probably be horrifyingly okay with giving their life for the cause. They think they'll be remembered as a martyred hero. They think the crackdown following their death will be righteous.

      When Trump sends them, they are on a mission from God.

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      @wrosecrans

      I think that’s all exactly right. I just don’t think they believe that their boss’s boss is •trying• to get them killed.

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      • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

        @yohan @apophis

        Indeed, but I’ll bet they aren’t here specifically to get killed so they can be right-wing meme fodder

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        @inthehands @apophis I never said that
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        • full metal bitch :labrys-bloody: Y full metal bitch :labrys-bloody:
          @inthehands @apophis I never said that
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          @yohan @apophis

          No, I did in the OP

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          • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

            I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed. That’s the pretext they desperately want.

            https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3m7ofznbtsk2v

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            @inthehands reminds me of this Onion headline

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            • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

              I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed. That’s the pretext they desperately want.

              https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3m7ofznbtsk2v

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              @inthehands they already openly want us dead.

              If the """"opposition"""" continues to refuse to use the non-violent leverage they already have, eventually provoking a violent overreaction may be the only way to get out of this

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              • CannedTunaM CannedTuna

                @inthehands reminds me of this Onion headline

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                @madcannedtuna

                Ha, The Onion is great, but that headline for this situation kind of misses the mark: https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/115860687777099579

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                • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                  Renee Good is a crisis for the Trump regime: not because they care about her life, but because ICE murdering her makes ICE look bad. They’ve been telling all these stories about all the imaginary violence ICE officers face. In their minds, it’s the people on the streets who were supposed to lose their cool first. Now they’re falling over themselves to make that happen.

                  We just want ICE gone, but their bosses want them dead. And no, I’m sure they do not understand this.

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                  @inthehands
                  I think some of them understand this. They use it to justify their violence.

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                  • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                    I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed. That’s the pretext they desperately want.

                    https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3m7ofznbtsk2v

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                    @inthehands It's just like in Andor.

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                    • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                      I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed. That’s the pretext they desperately want.

                      https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3m7ofznbtsk2v

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                      @inthehands Those weren't goons if they knew (or cared)

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                      • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                        I keep coming back to what Kevin Kruse said here: the Trump regime is trying to get an ICE officer killed. That’s the pretext they desperately want.

                        https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3m7ofznbtsk2v

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                        @inthehands Not only do they need an ICE officer to get killed - eventually most of those that have become ICE officers will be rounded up and imprisoned themselves.

                        They are the unruly chaos that any fascist wannabe-dictator initially relies on to create the disruption that is used as cause to seize more power. However, at some point those in power become scared of no longer being able to even control them and eventually crack down on the very group they created (usually as a story swung as "we've dealt with the extremist corruption that's grown in this organisation, look moderate population, we are on your side")

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                        • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                          Renee Good is a crisis for the Trump regime: not because they care about her life, but because ICE murdering her makes ICE look bad. They’ve been telling all these stories about all the imaginary violence ICE officers face. In their minds, it’s the people on the streets who were supposed to lose their cool first. Now they’re falling over themselves to make that happen.

                          We just want ICE gone, but their bosses want them dead. And no, I’m sure they do not understand this.

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                          @inthehands
                          I seem to remember Trump going on about how no sitting president was ever voted out during war times. This must have been in leading up to his first term and in context of him serving not just one or even two consecutive terms.

                          It stuck with me because it wasn't the usual incoherent ramblings, but like a moment of mad clarity.

                          Ever since, I've had the theory that he's working towards just that: a war, foreign or domestic, that he thinks will be the leverage needed to stay in office undisputed.

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