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The fediverse is anti-capitalist.

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  • wakest ⁂L wakest ⁂

    The fediverse is anti-capitalist. The fediverse is anarchist praxis. The fediverse is not a protocol. The fediverse caries an ideology of communal care and mutual aid for our fellow humans. The fediverse should never be neutral on ideology. The tools we are building provide infrastructure for communication but they also shape that communication.

    antonA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @liaizon Part of why the fediverse so appeals to me so much is that fedi *can* be made to coexist with nearly any given social form that people may choose to take part in. The state, commercial interests, even socially repressive cults and abusive family relationships can in theory exist within a federated model. They just need to have genuine public support and be robust to independent criticism.

    It forces every person taking part, to realize that society is, and always has been *their own* responsibility.
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    • wakest ⁂L wakest ⁂

      The fediverse is anti-capitalist. The fediverse is anarchist praxis. The fediverse is not a protocol. The fediverse caries an ideology of communal care and mutual aid for our fellow humans. The fediverse should never be neutral on ideology. The tools we are building provide infrastructure for communication but they also shape that communication.

      Twobiscuits🚴‍♂️ :graz:T This user is from outside of this forum
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      @liaizon The fediverse will not be televized!

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      • wakest ⁂L wakest ⁂

        The fediverse is anti-capitalist. The fediverse is anarchist praxis. The fediverse is not a protocol. The fediverse caries an ideology of communal care and mutual aid for our fellow humans. The fediverse should never be neutral on ideology. The tools we are building provide infrastructure for communication but they also shape that communication.

        OblomovO This user is from outside of this forum
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        @liaizon and this BTW is why the platforms that compose the Fediverse can and are used also by fascists and their friends (Gab, “Truth” Social, etc) yet those instances are NOT part of the Fediverse.

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        • OblomovO Oblomov

          @liaizon and this BTW is why the platforms that compose the Fediverse can and are used also by fascists and their friends (Gab, “Truth” Social, etc) yet those instances are NOT part of the Fediverse.

          wakest ⁂L This user is from outside of this forum
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          @oblomov agreed!

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          • wakest ⁂L wakest ⁂

            The fediverse is trans. Trans as in non binary. Trans as in transition. Trans as in transitional.

            wakest ⁂L This user is from outside of this forum
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            The fediverse is oxymoronic, it's both working perfectly and completely broken. It's chaotic chaos and JSON-LD. It's 404 not found and filling up your hard drive with media files. It's built on standard and protocols and made up on the spot. It has the institutional backing of governments and ngos while it's anti-state. It's anti fascist and the fascists are enjoying the tools we produce.

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            • wakest ⁂L wakest ⁂

              The fediverse is oxymoronic, it's both working perfectly and completely broken. It's chaotic chaos and JSON-LD. It's 404 not found and filling up your hard drive with media files. It's built on standard and protocols and made up on the spot. It has the institutional backing of governments and ngos while it's anti-state. It's anti fascist and the fascists are enjoying the tools we produce.

              Yegor LapshovN This user is from outside of this forum
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              Hi there, I’ve just launched an MVP of an app aimed at countering authoritarianism, with BTC onboarding at its core. I believe it could be valuable to the BTC and Nostr community.
              Would you mind taking a look and sharing your feedback?
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              • wakest ⁂L wakest ⁂

                The fediverse is oxymoronic, it's both working perfectly and completely broken. It's chaotic chaos and JSON-LD. It's 404 not found and filling up your hard drive with media files. It's built on standard and protocols and made up on the spot. It has the institutional backing of governments and ngos while it's anti-state. It's anti fascist and the fascists are enjoying the tools we produce.

                Dunwich Type FoundersD This user is from outside of this forum
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                @liaizon it’s like IRC and the web in 2001.

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                • wakest ⁂L wakest ⁂

                  The fediverse is oxymoronic, it's both working perfectly and completely broken. It's chaotic chaos and JSON-LD. It's 404 not found and filling up your hard drive with media files. It's built on standard and protocols and made up on the spot. It has the institutional backing of governments and ngos while it's anti-state. It's anti fascist and the fascists are enjoying the tools we produce.

                  antonA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @liaizon makes exactly as much sense as life itself
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                  • wakest ⁂L wakest ⁂

                    The fediverse is oxymoronic, it's both working perfectly and completely broken. It's chaotic chaos and JSON-LD. It's 404 not found and filling up your hard drive with media files. It's built on standard and protocols and made up on the spot. It has the institutional backing of governments and ngos while it's anti-state. It's anti fascist and the fascists are enjoying the tools we produce.

                    bamficB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @liaizon Thank you once again for running this instance. I ran one for a couple years, and it was a pain in the ass.

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                    • bamficB bamfic

                      @liaizon Thank you once again for running this instance. I ran one for a couple years, and it was a pain in the ass.

                      wakest ⁂L This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @bamfic this instance is partially inspired by yours in the first place!

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                      • wakest ⁂L wakest ⁂

                        The fediverse is anti-capitalist. The fediverse is anarchist praxis. The fediverse is not a protocol. The fediverse caries an ideology of communal care and mutual aid for our fellow humans. The fediverse should never be neutral on ideology. The tools we are building provide infrastructure for communication but they also shape that communication.

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                        @liaizon

                        I think I disagree. Fedi has potential to democratize attention but to do that, it needs to be as universal as the web. A culture here that goes beyond limiting harassment, to cultivating a specific ideology, will keep us tiny. I think I understand the way it feels and how you can enjoy that, it's a trade-off for having a wider revolutionary impact on society.

                        Yes shitty servers exist. But they should be blocked for the unwanted tagging of users on other servers, not what they post.

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                        • william.maggosW william.maggos

                          @liaizon

                          I think I disagree. Fedi has potential to democratize attention but to do that, it needs to be as universal as the web. A culture here that goes beyond limiting harassment, to cultivating a specific ideology, will keep us tiny. I think I understand the way it feels and how you can enjoy that, it's a trade-off for having a wider revolutionary impact on society.

                          Yes shitty servers exist. But they should be blocked for the unwanted tagging of users on other servers, not what they post.

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                          @liaizon @wjmaggos

                          Every protocol, every system, every community carries an inherent politics; they cannot be neutral. They can be explicitly pluralist, but that is not a neutral position. The goals, priorities, and praxis of the fediverse are inherently countercultural in a capitalist society.

                          The Fediverse will be ignored until someone sees a way to coopt or compromise it then we can either play along for expediency and lose the Fediverse the way we have lost so many promising systems in the digital age, or stick to our principles and fight for them beyond this corner of our lives.

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                          • David Mitchell :CApride:D David Mitchell :CApride:

                            @liaizon @wjmaggos

                            Every protocol, every system, every community carries an inherent politics; they cannot be neutral. They can be explicitly pluralist, but that is not a neutral position. The goals, priorities, and praxis of the fediverse are inherently countercultural in a capitalist society.

                            The Fediverse will be ignored until someone sees a way to coopt or compromise it then we can either play along for expediency and lose the Fediverse the way we have lost so many promising systems in the digital age, or stick to our principles and fight for them beyond this corner of our lives.

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                            @DavidM_yeg yes! Thank you for saying this as clearly and strongly as you did!

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