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  3. Noticeable trend on my mailserver: Spam that comes via IPv6 is 90% from Google servers and the rest is Amazon or Microsoft servers.

Noticeable trend on my mailserver: Spam that comes via IPv6 is 90% from Google servers and the rest is Amazon or Microsoft servers.

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  • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

    Hostgnome uses a simple tactic. They rent/buy IPv4 address pools, send spam via all allocated addresses in that space for a few days and then get rid of the pool, replacing it with a fresh one. So it makes sense to have a cronjob that checks their ASes and immediately block all pools on the firewall.

    #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

    Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L This user is from outside of this forum
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    @jwildeboer That's ... Woah. I understand how it works, but where did we go wrong that it does and turned IP ranges into rentals?

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    • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

      Noticeable trend on my mailserver: Spam that comes via IPv6 is 90% from Google servers and the rest is Amazon or Microsoft servers. So far no other senders of IPv6 spam. 95% of spam attempts are still IPv4 from various Chinese, US, pacific country sources. The most annoying spam sender stays hostgnome from UK. (All of these attempts are blocked by my mail server, so never make it past the initial HELO part).

      #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

      heuveltopH This user is from outside of this forum
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      @jwildeboer Do you block them by IP or by domain?

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      • heuveltopH heuveltop

        @jwildeboer Do you block them by IP or by domain?

        Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J This user is from outside of this forum
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        @heuveltop IP.

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        • γƒ’γ‚Ήγ‚±^^ β„οΈπŸˆπŸ”₯🐴T γƒ’γ‚Ήγ‚±^^ β„οΈπŸˆπŸ”₯🐴

          @jwildeboer so glad you posted this. Huge uptrend for me in the last month from google ipv6 2002::

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          @tramtrist @jwildeboer So true

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          • Lars Marowsky-BrΓ©e 😷L Lars Marowsky-BrΓ©e 😷

            @jwildeboer That's ... Woah. I understand how it works, but where did we go wrong that it does and turned IP ranges into rentals?

            γƒ’γ‚Ήγ‚±^^ β„οΈπŸˆπŸ”₯🐴T This user is from outside of this forum
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            @larsmb @jwildeboer wait I don’t get it. How can we track their AS?

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            • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

              Hostgnome uses a simple tactic. They rent/buy IPv4 address pools, send spam via all allocated addresses in that space for a few days and then get rid of the pool, replacing it with a fresh one. So it makes sense to have a cronjob that checks their ASes and immediately block all pools on the firewall.

              #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

              Russell PhillipsR This user is from outside of this forum
              Russell PhillipsR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @homelab @jwildeboer I have questions, if you don't mind.

              1. How long do you block the IPs for?
              2. How do you find the ASs/could you share the cron job?
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              • γƒ’γ‚Ήγ‚±^^ β„οΈπŸˆπŸ”₯🐴T γƒ’γ‚Ήγ‚±^^ β„οΈπŸˆπŸ”₯🐴

                @jwildeboer so glad you posted this. Huge uptrend for me in the last month from google ipv6 2002::

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                @jwildeboer @tramtrist a lot of the spam I get these days is from GMail addresses.

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                • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

                  @heuveltop IP.

                  heuveltopH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jwildeboer Can you share with us the source of the list of IP addressen?

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                  • γƒ’γ‚Ήγ‚±^^ β„οΈπŸˆπŸ”₯🐴T γƒ’γ‚Ήγ‚±^^ β„οΈπŸˆπŸ”₯🐴

                    @larsmb @jwildeboer wait I don’t get it. How can we track their AS?

                    Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @tramtrist @jwildeboer I suspect the AS doesn't change, just the prefixes the AS announces.

                    Hence, blocking by ASN, not by IP address range.

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                    • Lars Marowsky-BrΓ©e 😷L Lars Marowsky-BrΓ©e 😷

                      @tramtrist @jwildeboer I suspect the AS doesn't change, just the prefixes the AS announces.

                      Hence, blocking by ASN, not by IP address range.

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                      @larsmb @tramtrist Yep. Use AS to find assigned ranges, feed them to firewall. Every 12 hours.

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                      • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

                        Hostgnome uses a simple tactic. They rent/buy IPv4 address pools, send spam via all allocated addresses in that space for a few days and then get rid of the pool, replacing it with a fresh one. So it makes sense to have a cronjob that checks their ASes and immediately block all pools on the firewall.

                        #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

                        Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Because a few people asked how I block the IP ranges from hostgnome:

                        - Mailserver detects IP address trying to to deliver spam: 91.237.124.193
                        - Via `whois` I find the corresponding AS: 201579 (picture 1)
                        - Then I find all IP ranges associated with with this AS (picture 2)
                        - Then I go through the ranges and add them to my firewall.

                        Rinse, repeat.

                        #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

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                        • Russell PhillipsR Russell Phillips

                          @homelab @jwildeboer I have questions, if you don't mind.

                          1. How long do you block the IPs for?
                          2. How do you find the ASs/could you share the cron job?
                          Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @rpbook See https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/116058656812877639 I will not share for how long I block these ranges, but definitely for more than a few days or weeks πŸ™‚

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                          • heuveltopH heuveltop

                            @jwildeboer Can you share with us the source of the list of IP addressen?

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                            @heuveltop `whois` and AS lookup. See https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/116058656812877639

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                            • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

                              Because a few people asked how I block the IP ranges from hostgnome:

                              - Mailserver detects IP address trying to to deliver spam: 91.237.124.193
                              - Via `whois` I find the corresponding AS: 201579 (picture 1)
                              - Then I find all IP ranges associated with with this AS (picture 2)
                              - Then I go through the ranges and add them to my firewall.

                              Rinse, repeat.

                              #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

                              Andrey BondarenkoS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @jwildeboer @homelab typo AS201579, not AS20579.

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                              • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

                                Because a few people asked how I block the IP ranges from hostgnome:

                                - Mailserver detects IP address trying to to deliver spam: 91.237.124.193
                                - Via `whois` I find the corresponding AS: 201579 (picture 1)
                                - Then I find all IP ranges associated with with this AS (picture 2)
                                - Then I go through the ranges and add them to my firewall.

                                Rinse, repeat.

                                #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

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                                @jwildeboer if you want, you can automate that part by querying radb.net:
                                ```
                                ./filter.sh AS201579
                                23.166.72.0/24
                                62.169.151.0/24
                                84.32.41.0/24
                                91.237.124.0/24
                                185.91.69.0/24
                                193.138.195.0/24
                                # ./filter.sh --ipv6 AS201579
                                2a13:2480::/29
                                2602:f9e4::/36
                                ```
                                Source: https://share.aditsystems.de/ztdku91ezQ/filter.sh

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                                • AntonA Anton

                                  @jwildeboer if you want, you can automate that part by querying radb.net:
                                  ```
                                  ./filter.sh AS201579
                                  23.166.72.0/24
                                  62.169.151.0/24
                                  84.32.41.0/24
                                  91.237.124.0/24
                                  185.91.69.0/24
                                  193.138.195.0/24
                                  # ./filter.sh --ipv6 AS201579
                                  2a13:2480::/29
                                  2602:f9e4::/36
                                  ```
                                  Source: https://share.aditsystems.de/ztdku91ezQ/filter.sh

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                                  @anton Oooh! Nice! I will extend that to add the ranges to my crowdsec based firewall πŸ™‚ Far better than my crude script. Thank you for sharing!

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                                  • Andrey BondarenkoS Andrey Bondarenko

                                    @jwildeboer @homelab typo AS201579, not AS20579.

                                    Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @shaman007 thx! fixed.

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                                    • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

                                      @anton Oooh! Nice! I will extend that to add the ranges to my crowdsec based firewall πŸ™‚ Far better than my crude script. Thank you for sharing!

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                                      @jwildeboer nicht von mir. Liegt seit einigen Jahren auf der Festplatte rum.

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