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  3. Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

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  • myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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    Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

    But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

    YonderY FediThing :progress_pride:F Cheshire (Alicja, Artemida and Mara)O regular violetT lemgandiL 7 Replies Last reply
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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

      But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

      YonderY This user is from outside of this forum
      YonderY This user is from outside of this forum
      Yonder
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      @futurebird

      Amazon's Mechanical Turk was, at least, open about it being humans doing the work

      not that it makes it right or anything

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

        But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

        FediThing :progress_pride:F This user is from outside of this forum
        FediThing :progress_pride:F This user is from outside of this forum
        FediThing :progress_pride:
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        @futurebird

        It really is a kind of fraud, yes. One wonders how long shareholders will keep falling for this kind of trickery.

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

          But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

          Cheshire (Alicja, Artemida and Mara)O This user is from outside of this forum
          Cheshire (Alicja, Artemida and Mara)O This user is from outside of this forum
          Cheshire (Alicja, Artemida and Mara)
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          @futurebird

          Automation and industrialisation could always have been about making people work less.

          It has been about "let's give this job to someone else and pay them less" more often than not. It has been the main direction it went, pretty much since the first Industrial Revolution.

          Back then it led to workers' rights movement and that, in time, shifted things for the better, despite incredible levels of pushback.

          Maybe it's time for another, bigger shift.

          The irony here is that regular people were able to withstand a lot of exploitation, but the rich and powerful just kept pushing, and pushing, and pushing.

          History repeats itself. Hope the bloodier parts of it do not repeat themselves, but at this point I do not see it going any other way.

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          • Cheshire (Alicja, Artemida and Mara)O Cheshire (Alicja, Artemida and Mara)

            @futurebird

            Automation and industrialisation could always have been about making people work less.

            It has been about "let's give this job to someone else and pay them less" more often than not. It has been the main direction it went, pretty much since the first Industrial Revolution.

            Back then it led to workers' rights movement and that, in time, shifted things for the better, despite incredible levels of pushback.

            Maybe it's time for another, bigger shift.

            The irony here is that regular people were able to withstand a lot of exploitation, but the rich and powerful just kept pushing, and pushing, and pushing.

            History repeats itself. Hope the bloodier parts of it do not repeat themselves, but at this point I do not see it going any other way.

            Cheshire (Alicja, Artemida and Mara)O This user is from outside of this forum
            Cheshire (Alicja, Artemida and Mara)O This user is from outside of this forum
            Cheshire (Alicja, Artemida and Mara)
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            @futurebird

            Say what you will about old-timey industrialists, but as some points they realised they couldn't win and relented, even a little, before things could escalate even worse.

            I think the rich of today are incapable of that. I am getting more "just before the French Revolution" vibes than "Gilded Age monopolies" vibes.

            Again, I dearly hope I am wrong. It will not just be the rich who will suffer, if we're living in the days before French Revolution Two: Now It's Global.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

              But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

              regular violetT This user is from outside of this forum
              regular violetT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @futurebird
              I always thought it was odd a company named for a dwindling rainforest called its products 'kindle' and 'fire' and now they feel very torment nexus on the nose.

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

                But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

                lemgandiL This user is from outside of this forum
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                @futurebird

                AI: Absent Indians

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

                  But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

                  myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
                  myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  The representative from Remote was, anxious to get them into a cab and to the hotel.

                  "We apologize for the software issue."

                  RemoteMaid said the property damage was due to "a bad software update." Paul could not shake the feeling that it looked like the work of a person.

                  Every toy in the nursery smashed, all food in the pantry crushed, clothes shredded. The scissors still rested on the dresser.

                  But, then he was being hurried away, as if they didn't want him to look too closely. #soon

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    The representative from Remote was, anxious to get them into a cab and to the hotel.

                    "We apologize for the software issue."

                    RemoteMaid said the property damage was due to "a bad software update." Paul could not shake the feeling that it looked like the work of a person.

                    Every toy in the nursery smashed, all food in the pantry crushed, clothes shredded. The scissors still rested on the dresser.

                    But, then he was being hurried away, as if they didn't want him to look too closely. #soon

                    デイヴD This user is from outside of this forum
                    デイヴD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @futurebird got a link to the article you're quoting? Curious to read it…

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                    • デイヴD デイヴ

                      @futurebird got a link to the article you're quoting? Curious to read it…

                      myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @deivudesu

                      I'm riffing on fiction which is a bad habit I have. Just trying to imagine where this will all lead. Apologies for not making that clear.

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        Amazon was thought it was cute to call their webservices "the mechanical Turk" after the fraudulent chess-playing robot with a person inside.

                        But these revelations about Waymo, and also Amazon shops... the fact they they hide and must be forced to admit "what we claimed was software is just people" isn't cute at all.

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                        @futurebird
                        More & more it’s seeming like ‘AI’ is basically an abstraction-layer insulting companies from labour exploitation and accountabaility. 🤔

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